P R Digger??

[RideQ]

I got an email for a program called PR Digger . I guess its for checking and finding high page rank sites for your keywords, and then you would have to proposition the sites for links?
Any experience in here?

[Robert]

First, I have not ever used it and can't say how well it works.

But, I believe that it is against googles TOS, and could cause problems with the numbers of searches that a serious SEO project could make. Google would not know that domain that cuased the problem, but could simply ban your IP to keep you from accessing them. This is what happened with the WPG lookups a few years back.

There are a couple free ways to do what you are talking about.

First, seoguys tools has the pagerank finder (http://www.seoguy.com/seo-tools/google-pr.php) that can be used in the same way. The main problem is that it is limited to 100 urls. (you can limit to only higher PR in successive searches to get a few more than 100/keyword)

You can also find the approperate directory in google, which will display the PR and save you a bit of time deciding who to ask for links first.

If you do decide to give it a try, let us know how it works. I have been trying to find something that will do something simmilar without causing more problems.

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[Robert]

I did a quick search on g00gle for the software you indicated.

I did find it in text, but no links, and no sites offering it.

Perhaps a bit of an indication that they should not expect a Christmas card from google this year. ;)

[megri]

I have checked the tool and it is not effective at all

[RideQ]

Thank you folks, you have just saved me a few dollars.
:)

[laura]

You could always use Prog http://www.webmasterbrain.com/prog/ and type in your keywords and find the sites with the PR you want and email them. No Fuss No Muss

[RideQ]

Thanks Laura cool little program!

[rtchar]

Hi all ... I don't know if this will help ...

I wrote a little utility that harvests links directly from my competitors link pages. Then it sorts the links in order of the sites page rank. Makes it easier to determine what sites I want to look at.

The nice part is the links are more likely to match your theme.

Google only shows some backlinks and they are 4-5 weeks old.

Enjoy it or Delete it :D

Link Page Rank (http://www.mrktcity.com/linkpr.html)

[bobmutch]

RideQ: Check out PageRank Search (http://www.seochat.com/seo-tools/pagerank-search) from SEO Chat (http://www.seochat.com/). It allows you to do Google searches and arange them by relevance or pagerank, and up to 100 at a time. It is a very useful tool. SEO Guy has a similur tool Keyword PageRank Finder (http://www.seo-guy.com/seo-tools/google-pr.php) as robert pointed out but the SEO Chat tool displays them with the highest rank first and also allows you to search allintitle:keyword etc.. Also the SEO Chat tool provides you with the option to examine the inbound links for on any of the results which is very helpful also. You can find this tool and others on my SEO Tools (http://www.seocompany.ca/tool/seo-tools.html) Page.



bobmutch

[rtchar]

bobmutch

Yes I've used those tools and the are great. But eventually I ran out out of search terms to use. The back links displayed in Google is only a sample, and lately they have been mostly low PR sites.

Now I simply follow the links from my competitor's link pages. They find the people willing to trade links, I simply contact the best of those sites. Then I follow their link pages back as well.

A never ending chain of sites, related to my theme. ;)

I even discovered a few rlated themes that I would have never about.

[bobmutch]

rtchar: Arelis (http://www.Axandra.com) a link management software package by Axandra will do that. You can select a site in the database of the program and have it pull in all the inbound links to that site. They have a 30 day demo which is crippled to pulling in 100 accounts. The software is quite nice as it creates your links page and the catagory pages. It also keeps them up to date so if some one drops your link and doesn't put it back up after you email them you just check that site in your Arelis database and it will remove it from your links page.

[rtchar]

Sounds a little backwards ... there are several similar programs that scrape back links.

This routine looks at 'outbound links' similar to Zeus. However, I have disabled the crawler portion since it is running off my server, and using MY band width. :D

Zeus makes no effort to evaluate the quality of the links. That is why I wrote this script, to look at Page Rank of the linked site.

I can see adding additional quality indicators in future, like when the links page was last updated -- number of links per page -- number of hops from home page -- framed or script link warnings -- etc.

I spend far to much time qualifying sites for link requests ...

[bobmutch]

rtchar: What is backward to having a program add all the backlinks into its database and display them for you on one-liners. How are you following the links to the competitor's link pages. If by hand then a program is surely faster.
So if the Arelis way of doing it is backward what program are you using that lets you add a site to your program (or query a site that is in the database already) and then tell it to add all the inbound links for that site. Lets you view them in the 2nd pane and delete the ones you don't want and then write an email (or send a form email) to the ones you want to contact and click it is send.

[dilligaf]

Please feel free to ignore (related but not really related, has anybody seen a mod.... smiley here)

About finding good pr bl's, I've been going to google and typing in mysubject add url links and I get any number of sites in my field that exchage links. I take one & enter the link:domain into the keyword PR tool (http://www.seo-guy.com/seo-tools/google-pr.php) here, select 10 pages and enter PR range and I'm presented with 100 relative sites that exchage links and have acceptable PR. (disclaimer... I miss any number of good links by being lazy, but that's definitely a new thread)

I get rid of site-wides, internal, non related and look for links type pages. I almost always have 20-30 emails to send after looking at the sites.

Adding their link to the db and e-mailing or submitting always take more time than finding them.

Sorry I can't comment on the program.

[bobmutch]

dilligaf: Don't want to belabour the point here to much but I don't see how typing in "www.domain.com" into a field and hitting enter, then right clicking and selecting get all inbound links and then sitting back while the program imports them and gets the email address for each link is a "backward" way of doing things. After the inbound links are imported they show up as one liners on the program screen. You click on any of them and the site is displayed in the bottom pane.
I am wondering how you are doing it, as I would be quite interested in finded a better way that this backward way of doing it.

[rtchar]

bobmutch

What I find backwards about 'Arelis' is that you input keywords and it uses the search engines to find similar sites. I did that manually the first week my site was up. ;)

ARELIS queries search engine result pages with 100 results at a time if possible. That means that for every query it makes at a search engine, it gets 100 web pages in return.

My little tool simply starts at the competitors link page, and sorts links by page rank. I look for the highest PR sites and go visit them, since they are already sympathetic about accepting links in MY theme.

I still have to evaluate the quality of the site, and the link page (even with fully automated software).

If their link pages are good I will save that URL for scanning later, even if I don't request a link from their site. So it is never ending chain of potential link partners.

I was not trying to create an all encompassing links management software package. It was offered simply as an alternative source of links. No banners, no ads, no counters or spyware.

[rtchar]

dilligaf

I was using link:domain in PROG before Google lowered the page rank of displayed backlinks. They used to show only sites with PR-4 or higher rating ... now it seems most of the back links are below PR-4 (hmmm maybe that is why ...?).

I tried using some of the automated software, but I thought they missed many opportunities.

I would like to add more features that help rank potential link partners, like last modified date, number of links on the page, etc. But you know how bandwidth intensive spiders can be ... 8-|

I am looking for quality links that will contribute PR or traffic to my sites, not quantity. ;)