Is this company any good?

[jjnay]

I have been approached by the following company and would like to know if anyone has experience with them.

The company is Bizopia and they guarantee 50 hits and appearance on the 1st page of Google for $1500/year. Is that a good price and can't I just do this myself.

Bear with me...I'm a novice

[dilligaf]

Anyone who cold calls you and guarantees rankings is definitely operating in left field. As far as hits... that's a joke (a hit is when anything from the page is called for and even then visitors are easy to manufacture).

Never heard of them, and yes you can do it yourself.

[wrockca]

Don't buy traffic .... get traffic with good practice SEO.

If it seems to good to be true than it most of the time is in this industry..

Save your money.

[jjnay]

Well I don't know if I mentioned that I am a novice - so I guess that's why I thought their offer was on the level. Presently I spend about $150/month on Overture and I really don't know what I'm doing to be perfectly honest and was kind of excited when this company said that they could do it for us at almost the same price. Is there anything that I should look for in a company that approaches us about SEO? There is another company that approached us and the charge was about $4000 per month - but they guaranteed high ranking - my thing is this...if I go into my Overture account and raise my bid to $3.00 then I'm on the top of the list - So I'm a bit green about what Bizopia or any of these company's can really do for me. I'm usually pretty well versed on topics involving the net but this one has stumped me for years! Suffice it to say though - Bizopia is out! And when they call back tomorrow they will wonder why I'm speaking intelligently all of sudden when I tell them

"As far as hits... that's a joke (a hit is when anything from the page is called for and even then visitors are easy to manufacture)."

Thank you for the feedback! I'm learning alot already.

[jjnay]

[QUOTE=wrockca]Don't buy traffic .... get traffic with good practice SEO.

If it seems to good to be true than it most of the time is in this industry..

Save your money.[/QUOTE]


So, wrockca I'm sensing undertones in your response that seem to verify my feelings about SEO....the the industry is just something that's hot because folk such as myself are too green to know that we don't need the service and we believe the SEO hype because we don't know any better? I feel like I NEED a SEO company in order to be successful on the web - but since you're an expert - it sounds like you know more than I ever could and I sense that maybe I'm right - maybe I don't need SEO to be a success on the web. Yes it's been said that I can do it myself - but what do these SEO companies have that I don't? I just don't get it....and I don't think I ever will. I really don't. I just joined this forum today so at least I'll know what I'm talking about the very next time a SEO vendor comes across my office's doorsteps.

[dilligaf]

Relax and read a little... it's certainly not rocket science. By reading some you'll pick up a bunch that will help you ask the right questions to get the right person/firm for your needs if you decide not to do it yourself.

A couple of thoughts... if they're knocking on your door, they need you. Not always the best talent pool. If they're guaranteeing specific rankings in specific time periods you've got two more reasons to run. Reputable firms will be honest in that no one can guarantee what a specific search engine will do down the road.

[nitin_gupta2003]

I think no body can guarantee about natural search engine optimization that he will promote ur kw on top position.yaa if he is charging for paid advertisement then it is good but if he is guaranteeing in natural search engine optimization then i think he is fake...............

[suke]

I think don’t go for these kind of offers. Try to do yourself will be best knowledge for you, and don’t use any short formula to reach your destiny, because no body can guarantee for top 10 in the search engine result.

[seo.expert]

hello dear,
i would do ur site rank in google on 1st position .
but my rate is here
3000$ for 3 month

[jjnay]

Sorry sir - I plan to take the advice here and try it on my own. Thank you for the offer however!

[IMGster]

DONT RISK IT, take your time and find the best SEO

[seo auliya]

[QUOTE=jjnay]So, wrockca I'm sensing undertones in your response that seem to verify my feelings about SEO....the the industry is just something that's hot because folk such as myself are too green to know that we don't need the service and we believe the SEO hype because we don't know any better? I feel like I NEED a SEO company in order to be successful on the web - but since you're an expert - it sounds like you know more than I ever could and I sense that maybe I'm right - maybe I don't need SEO to be a success on the web. Yes it's been said that I can do it myself - but what do these SEO companies have that I don't? I just don't get it....and I don't think I ever will. I really don't. I just joined this forum today so at least I'll know what I'm talking about the very next time a SEO vendor comes across my office's doorsteps.[/QUOTE]


I think the biggest difference between someone doing their own SEO and having a reputable company do it for you is TIME. If you are running a business, and trying to do your own SEO on your site, you probably wont have enough time to put towards SEO, where as a reputable company (one that will actually be able to help you of course) has lots of time because it is their business to make time for SEO. SEO is a long process of changing and watching what happens, as well as spending a lot of time talking on forums like this learning what changes will help you and what wont. You can easily do it yourself, but you may end up not having much of a life, you'll be so busy keeping your business together and doing your own SEO. But, having said that, I'm not trying to convince you to hire someone, but im just trying to explain my understanding of why you might want to look into hiring someone. You can always do it yourself if you can make the time to do it. :p

[jjnay]

I just got a quote that was 11,000+. And that just seems over the top for me. Another quote was for $4000/month. I am seeing now how involved SEO is and I cannot afford the time. Just this weekend alone I spent 2 days working on it and researching it. But I don't have that sort of budget either to support paying $11,000. Can someone recommend a decent company or consultant that can help me with this?

[jlknauff]

[QUOTE=seo auliya]I think the biggest difference between someone doing their own SEO and having a reputable company do it for you is TIME.[/QUOTE]I agree.

Yes, you can do it yourself like many people have suggested, and if you are running a fairly new company on your own, you may have to. In the bigger picture though, it's better to outsource the things that you are not an expert in and focus on the things that you are an expert in. There will hopefully come a time in your life when even though it requires you to invest money, it actually works out to be cheaper to outsource certain things - think about it this way...do you think Donald Trump picks up a hammer and throws up sheet rock?

If you choose to do it yourself, you've come to the right place to learn. If you choose to outsource it, feel free to post any questions that you mzay have in determining the quality of the company in question. Try to avoid posting the company names though since it's not really relevant to the actual question. If you want to ask about the reputation of a particular company, you can PM any of the Mods or even some of the members that have been around a while (look for high post counts - 2000+).

Hope that helps.

[jjnay]

The company has done work for us before. So I know their work - but I don't know if it's worth it to me to pay $11,000+ for SEO. I'm wondering if that is typical or how I can possibly get it done for less.

What parts do you think I should get a professional to assist with.

My 1st steps have been to submit to all Search Engines
Working on linking back to my site from our blog
Requesting link exhchanges
Submit url on dmoz
Submit to Yahoo directory
Change the title of home page and that is it!

Can you suggest so other preliminary steps we can take. I just don't want to continue paying money for ppc. It's expensive as well. I would like to naturally appear on the 1st page. And when I look at the companies that are on the 1st page - I see a very long site map. I plan to start working on that tomorrow.

Any other suggestions or feedback about the direction I have taken and propose to take. I know I have raised alot of questions herein but answer whatever you can. Thank you!

[linknz]

[QUOTE=jjnay]

they guarantee 50 hits Bear with me...I'm a novice[/QUOTE]
No worries mate, I can if you want email you a short php script that will send a few thousand hits to your website every hour, everyday for ever.

They are real hits but sadly they don't have a real user behind them and so I would doubt if you get anything from it.
Your best bet is to take your time and try to learn as much as you can and then put what you have found out to work for you.

[lineops001]

Hey there

Just to let you know, I could only find them by actually typing in the name you gave us.

Then if you look at what there 'marketing offer' is for $59 per month - all they are offering from what I can see from a cursory glance - and there may be more so take this with a pinch of salt - they are offering to help you establish 25 keywords for adwords. I am assuming the adwords costs would be yours to bear.

I may be an SEO junior, but I do know adwords, so If you want a hand there, let me know.

happy to be corrected if I'm wrong. You can find them here...
http://website.bizopia.com/website/Home/tabid/36/Default.aspx

and there marketing offer here
http://website.bizopia.com/website/Products/InternetAdvertising/tabid/60/Default.aspx

its a bit slow.... might be my connection...

later.. :rolleyes:

[BSolveIT]

Bizopia.... holy guacamole!!?

The people that run this site I'm sure are great people. But I wouldn't part with any money for an SEO service from a company who's home page title is "Home". hehehe.... like - oh my word!?

:eek:

[linknz]

[QUOTE=lineops001]QUOTE]

Well I just dropped in to have a quick look...

DE targets the delivery of 8 quality external links per month that point to your website for the duration of the 6 month contract.

Mmmmm!
Well from what I can see the site has been found by MSN and they don't appear to have been indexed much by the other search engines.

Google PageRank for website.bizopia.com/website/ is: 0 / 10
Which sounds about right!

They don't appear to have any links going out from the website either which is a different way of doing things to the way I see it.

So I will now check on the search engine saturation they have:::
Site: website.bizopia.com/website/ Engine Indexed Pages
All the Web: 0
Google/AOL/HotBot: 4
MSN: 18
Yahoo!/AltaVista/Fast: 0

Total: 22

And I may as well spare the expense (Grin) and see what else turns up::

Site: website.bizopia.com/website/ Engine Incoming Links
All the Web: 0
Google/AOL/HotBot: 0
MSN: 1
Yahoo!/AltaVista/Fast: 0

Total: 1

Now if they are going to set you up with 8 quality links coming into your website, I would begin to wonder why they haven't done it to the website they are working from????

[Neil]

Can someone recommend a decent company or consultant that can help me with this?

Have you checked out Real Estate Webmasters (http://www.realestatewebmasters.com/index.php?referrerid=2876) - its a forum just like this one that specifically deals with Real Estate Related SEO. I highly recommend checking it out.