View Full Version : redirecting PR?
07-01-2004, 07:19 AM
Ok, I've seen the bad side of this but maybe it can be used in a good way too. I hope someone has an answer 'cuz I sure don't.
If you redir a new site to one with a high PR Google gives you the same PR after it indexes and see this is the case. Now many people have used this to steal PR from other sites-but what if you own or controll both sites? Could I use it to get a new site ranked more quickly by redirecting the index to a high PR site that I controll and then update all of my content on the new site when PR has been established? My concern is would doing this actually take PR away from the "donor" site so to speak or when everything settles, would they both have the same PR? :huh:
07-01-2004, 08:44 AM
you can do this if you own both sites. however, if you purchase the domain after it expired, there's some thought that they can detect this- and "date" the links coming in.
as long as they're both your sites, you should be fine. they won't have the "same PR" after everything settles.
I assumed you meant actual redirects? as in a 301 redirect where the old site is no longer up?
07-01-2004, 08:46 AM
No, just a temporary thing to get the new site ranked quicker. They will both stay up afterwards.
07-02-2004, 05:09 AM
Once google finds a new domain it "sandbox's" it. It wont help you to redirect your page rank. Once you remove the redirect it will fall to it "proper value"
i wouldnt even bother it doesnt help in the long run and it wont really make it get extra page rank, or anything else that benifits the domain.
07-02-2004, 07:21 AM
Actually- if Site A has a PR5 and has been up for like 2 years, thus being out of the 'sandbox' and it was 301 Redirected to a new domain- google probably would skip the sandbox.. assuming google took the 301 as a MOVE from Site A to Site B.
07-02-2004, 11:24 AM
Thats very valuable information jrwresting thank you for that. I am going to explore the 301 area and learn abit more about it. I am sure that could come in very handy for clients at some time or another.
07-02-2004, 12:40 PM
I dont think it can be assumed that a 301 would make the new domain skip the sandbox, especially because the sandbox doesnt apply to domains at all. It applies to the inbound links and the credit for those links, which is counted whether the domain is 1 month or 3 years old.
A 301/302 redirect (The only proper redirects to use in this situation) would take just as long or longer for the new domain to take effect as would just building its links up quickly and letting them have theri 2 month probation in the sandbox.
I dont advise temporary redirects to try to quick index a new site, its fraught with "what if you get caught" questions whos answer contain many possible penalties.
07-02-2004, 12:45 PM
Is it the links age or the domains age that trigger the sandbox effect?
07-02-2004, 12:52 PM
its is the links
07-02-2004, 12:52 PM
and to get them out of the sandbox takes roughly the same amount of time as a 301 takes to kick in, so my point is, whats the point :)
07-07-2004, 12:37 PM
sorry to change subject, but i cant figure out where to post for the first time, so i chose this thread since it talks about a related subject of redirecting. trying to figure out code that willl allow me to redirect an entire folder within my site that has many pages in it to another site without putting code on each and every page that is within that folder. The folder is for a site within the main site, and i want to redirect just those pages in that speicific folder only to a new site. The url for this folder is videohilites.com/special and i do not want to redirect anything that is not in that "/special" folder. I have the code to redirect a page but dont know code to make every page in that folder redirect. just trying to save some time by not putting code on each and every page in that /special folder. thanks, john from hawaii
07-07-2004, 01:48 PM
if you want to post a new thread, just click "New Thread"! It's just above the forum table on the left.
As for your question you might want to take a look here, http://www.seo-guy.com/forum/showthread.php?t=1239&page=2
Hope it works for different sites as well!
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