MSN Search engine Optimization

[seo guy]

http://submitit.bcentral.com/subopt.htm?print=1 kind of vague and retarted but its all they give us heh MSN Search Engine Optimization (SEO) tips here

[wyrickj]

lol they don't even mention the word Link Popularity. I don't even SEO my site for MSN cuz it's traffic stinks. I may SEO for Yahoo but maybe later. My main SE is the SE who visits me almost everyday - Google LOL.

[Nick0r]

Has everyone seen http://beta.search.msn.com/ - the new MSN beta search engine?

[wyrickj]

Hope they improve it a bit more. Just looks like the same results to me. Also the main search page is kind empty of design.

[seobook]

the main page is kinda empty because they want to play off the fact that it is in test and that search is so important that it is all they are focusing on.

[sunny]

new MSN results are at here ;)

http://techpreview.search.msn.com/

[tfbpa]

At least they are fast!
I have just changed my site and already are some new URLs are showing up, in contrast to Google which doesn't show them yet...

[laura]

[QUOTE=seo guy]http://submitit.bcentral.com/subopt.htm?print=1 kind of vague and retarted[/QUOTE]

Whats retarted?

[SEO_AM]

I just went through all my top money keywords on the new MSN search. I love it. On 13 of 24 KWs we were in top 5 and on the first page with all but 5. I am optimized for Google but place much better in MSN. God I hope this is their final algo and that they beat Google. :cool:

[sem4u]

Don't get too excited. I am sure MSN will be making many changes to its algo over the coming months 8-|

[RideQ]

I found it pretty irrelevant for some of my searches, some of the pages contained NO text with my keywords, but there internal links did.
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[glh2k1]

I've had hundreds of pages crawled by MSNBot during the past three weeks, but only 50 are indexed - does anyone know the difference in the MSNBot algorithm vs. the other two?

[seobook]

[QUOTE=glh2k1]does anyone know the difference in the MSNBot algorithm vs. the other two?[/QUOTE]

other 3 you mean :)

teoma = local community structure + page elements
Google = decent weighting of link reputation + small amount of page elements
yahoo = decent weighting of page elements + link reputation

MSN seems to be somewhat really beta still and does not seem to be factoring in advanced link algorithms really strongly yet (from the few sites I checked). their algorithm can change a ton from where it is right now so I would not spend a bunch of effort worrying about it just yet.

[gleb]

yeah will just have to wait until their new search engine is launched, cuz MSN learned their lesson from google and gatez seems to be a pretty smart guy :)

[brainpulse]

The way i look at it i think MSN is in it s infancy and will grow as time passess by and will eventually come close the google ways. So i also donot really bother about MSN as of now. Please correct me if i am wrong.

BrainPulse
SEO India Search Engine Optimization (http://www.brainpulse.com/search_engine_promotion_india/search_engine_promotion_india.php)

[eCommando]

MSN search is in Alpha, I believe. The manager of MSN search is in their search forum. They are inviting SEOs to discuss the search engine and results. I believe they only have 1 billion pages indexed. But from what I can see the results are already more relevant than Yahoo's. I think their algorithm is closer to Google.

[interactive]

My Urchin website statistics show: msnbot 21,853*hits since April.

MSNbot has visited more than ANY other bot (including Google). Can you believe our site is nowhere to be found in their search results?

Is the MSNbot that has been visiting since April the same MSNbot that is powering the new MSN search?

Thanks!

[xan]

here is what i noticed to the beta results:

 No stemming algorithm
 Not using URL keywords
 Using content over meta tags
 Term frequency is making a marked difference
 Keyword density makes a clear difference

Links don't appear to be making too much of a commotion either. However, the whole thing is in beta and we can't be sure what part of the new algorithm is being tested. It doesn't hurt to check from time to time though!

xan