Could anyone please help me with keywords?

[ukplayersguide]

Hi there.

I have a new website which i've delayed uploading because i desparately want to get my keywords right! I've paid for the full wordtracker, and am trying to work out the best keyword(s).

The site is a slot machines site.

Whatever way i look at it, by far the best result comes for the phrase;

how to beat the slot

The .com domain (and hypehenated too) are unavailable (although no website is up for that yet). .co.uk is available which i asssume is fine (i'm in the uk anyway).

If anyone read my thread in the link exchange forum, i may be (hopefully) getting a site wide unreciprocated link from a PR6 site (200+ pages) which will be linking to this new site. Therefore if i can get a good keyword domain, i should do well in yahoo, and i should do well in google (with those links).

The problem is, if you type how to beat the slot, into google without " ", it removes how, to, and the. This gives a search of beat slot.

The results from wordtracker are (google)
"HOW TO BEAT THE SLOT" Count 328 24 hours 110 Competing 831
(yahoo)
"HOW TO BEAT THE SLOT" Count 328 24 hours 94 Competing 5080

It doesn't return any results at all for beat slot (which is what how to beat the slot searches for essentially - in google). I find it strange that "how to beat the slot" is much higher than "how to beat the slots" or "how to beat the slot machines", as they make much more sense as a sentence!

So therefore, do i go for how to beat the slot OR beat slot? (or how to beat the slot machines - which makes more sense as a sentence [and i already own that domain]).

I was thinking that "how to beat the slot" would be good for the domain, and "beat slot" for the anchor text would be ok, but i'm unsure.

Sorry for rambling. I want to get what i've learned here right first this time around (rather than go back and make changes as i've had to do on my first site)!

If anyone has some good advice, i would really appreciate it, as i'm very confused (again).

H

[pt49]

I find it strange that "how to beat the slot" is much higher than "how to beat the slots" or "how to beat the slot machines", as they make much more sense as a sentence!

Hi, heres my take -I am assuming you mean higher in volume?

"how to beat the slot" in search results in Wordtracker this includes the plural "how to beat the slots" therefore it is higher in volume.

"how to beat the slots" is only the plural, and can not include the singular (slot) therefore it is lower (in volume)

"how to beat the slot machines" is more targeted, therefore has lower volume.

I use a piece of software that analyzes wordtracker results and organizes them into niches automatically, taking all the headache out of the sorting process. It collates thousands of search results and spits out lists of niches within niches in minutes if using broadband, in neat text files.

[ukplayersguide]

Thanks mate. That's one part of the puzzle sorted in my head. Onwards and upwards! 8-|

[ukplayersguide]

Back again..... :D

Here are the results for the 3 options...;

1 "how to beat the slot" Count 354 24Hrs 119 Competing2800
2 "how to beat the slot machines" Count 11 24Hrs 4 Competing1330
3 "how to beat the slots" Count 12 24Hrs 4 Competing4580


#2 doesn't really get much traffic

To get the actual figure for #1, surely you just take off the volume from#3?

If #1 includes #2's count because of the plural, then #1 must still be much better, for what i can see :confused: .

Would anyone agree with that?

Thanks as always

Harvey (who one day hopefully will be able to answer more questions than i ask) :D

[Bela Flor]

pt49,

Can you give us some more information on the tool that you use to go through wordtracker. It would be nice to use a program to go through all of their results instead of manually doing it.

Thanks

[pt49]

If the moderators want to delete this post, please do so. I won't give the name of the software here, because I'm not certain of the forum rules regarding advertising. You can PM me if you wish. This software is not free, and is only available through owners of the software... kinda neat heh?... a software developer who looks after his affiliates.

The software has the following capabilities -

Import your keywords and data with a cut & paste of the e-mails Wordtracker sends you.
Set the software to work on your keyword lists and develop niches within the main niche.
Filter out just the keywords you want.
Pull out keywords that match the criteria you specify (like a minimum KEI, Count, number of competing websites or only those keywords containing a specific word.
Keep all of your Wordtracker projects in one place and switch between them with just a click of the mouse.
Save your filtered, sorted lists as tab-delimited text files for printing or importing into other software.

I imported about 8,000 Wordtracker keywords to do with Dogs, set my criteria and filters, clicked "go" and got a text file with over 300 Niche's, sorted by Root Keyword, Count, KEI and Competition. Some niches had hundreds of words (the keyword "dogs" for instance) which can be sorted into sub-niches, while others had only 4 or 5 keywords.

Every niche had profitable keywords.
Every niche represents at least one optimizable web page, with the profitable words listed, ready to use.