Newbie needs someone to take a look...

[Phoenix Real Estate Agent]

Hi All,

Been reading a lot and it is time for me to post somewhere besides the "hello" catagory...

I have been hard at work, using suggestions from many at the other forum I participate in, www.RealEstateWebmasters.com.

I have finished making my links pages static, all 54 of them. Now they open in their own window, without frames and have a navigation system to get around within the 54 pages.

Does anyone see any no-no's in the code on these pages? I really want to get it right, for me and for my link partners, before the next Google update so I can see if I get any PR on any of these pages. The main link page used to have PR 4/10 within a frame, but never passed PR to the other link pages. :mad: So, I went to work and need your help veiwing my source code to make sure it is Google and PR friendly now.

Go to my home page and choose the Real Estate Agent Directory link under the Business Relations catagory to see it the way viewers and spiders will. Or click on this link: http://www.phoenixhomes.com/PageManager/Default.aspx/PageID=176136&NF=1

Thank you for your time in this as it is REALLY important to this newbie. 8-|

[dilligaf]

Phoenix, is the "real estate agent directory" you're only concern? I ask only because there are a couple of other what appear to be recips pages linked near there.

Regarding specifically the page you mentioned... if it's not been up too long, and you want parners to see the green bar you might want to clip the variable from the url. It's been my experience that these get spidered and rank OK but the PR doesn't show as readily. In reality it shouldn't matter as that page is linked directly from home... but perceptions are perceptions.

Example: The peak site in my sig.
Home > Articles > Classroom Arrangement
No PR but ranks 3 of appx 300K

Maybe a bad example (non competitive) but if you're looking for green it might be a decent illustration.

[Phoenix Real Estate Agent]

Hi Dilligaf,

Thank you for taking a minute to look at it. There are 54 pages that I am concerned with for right now. All are recip links pages. Not sure which "other pages" you are talking about. If it opens in a new window with out frames, then it is a part of the 54 pages I am concerned about. They are the only ones that open new w/out frames. I do need the green to obtain non-home page BL's. Most wouldn't link to me unless I gave them a HP link because of all the frames and the lack of green. I need to keep my HP clean, having interior PR would help me get rid of most HP, outgoing links I currently have.

I have made them all static and navigable from each other, hoping to make them G-bot friendly so I can acheive some green.

Can not make shorter URL's, I have no control over that with my AA site. But, with the current URL, Google can pass PR, mostly because the frame is gone and with that gone so are all the % and ? marks in my URL's.

What I really need is to make sure there are no BIG no-no's in the source code for these 54 pages. Not asking anyone to do anything for me other than make sure I am not making any BIG mistakes so i don't miss out on the next update.

Thanks all, for your time! I know it is very valuable and in short supply for most of us.

[dilligaf]

I don't see any problems with the page referenced other than what was mentioned. How long has the page been up as it's not cached?

[Phoenix Real Estate Agent]

'bout three days or so. Should be cached by now shouldn't it?

[dilligaf]

Phoenix, Just checked and it doesn't look like that page is cached yet. Looks like you're getting hit regularly otherwise. Maybe I'm missing it.

http://www.google.com/search?hl=en&ie=UTF-8&q=http%3A%2F%2Fphoenixhomes.com%2FPageManager%2FDefault.aspx%2FPageID%3D176136%26NF%3D1&btnG=Google+Search

[Phoenix Real Estate Agent]

I check every day to see if it is cached yet. Many, if not all, of the state pages are cached.

I just don't get it. Is there a need for more content on that page? The big G crawls it all the time, and once upon a time it had PR 4/10 with the frame, but that went away two weeks after it appeared. That is why I am trying out the non-framed version, to see if I can gain decent GREEN and keep it!

Helppppppp, anyone...

BTY, thank you very much dilligaf, you are the only one who has even peeped one word to me about this. I originally posted it in the Newbies section, but Morgan moved it here, and honestly, I do not feel I'm ready for any but the newbie section.

[jocelyn]

[QUOTE=Phoenix Real Estate Agent]That is why I am trying out the non-framed version, to see if I can gain decent GREEN and keep it![/QUOTE]
Well good move to tossing the frames this should improve your SERPS and all. When I removed my frames, pages started to pop in the results. Good move and the pages look good. SSI easily replaces the frames.

[dilligaf]

To be honest you could take all I know about rewriting URL's... stick it up a knats a$$ and it'd rattle around like a BB in a matchbox (but I think that's where the issue is). I didn't look today but it looked like the page it was linked from was crawled daily.

[jocelyn]

Well your home will be crawled daily with a PR4, but the rets will be refreshed almost only on the next deepcrawl. Get links to your homepage, it will eventually have enough to get the links on it to be crawled daily also.

[Phoenix Real Estate Agent]

Yes, my HP is crawled daily.

Jocelyn, what is SSI?

Anyone else have any input as to why the main page is not cached? Also, anyone care to take a look at the code of that page and see if there are any big no-no's? Go to my Real Estate Agent Directory if you are able to help at all and take a look, please.

I know the URL's are ugly, but at least there are no ?'s or % in it anymore. There is nothing else I can do to make it shorter or KW specific.

Maybe I should ask for a few BL's to it with the KW's I use to link to it from my HP (which bTY are the KW's in the Meta title and the H1 tag)? What do you think about that?

I still can't help thinking something else is wrong with the page, code or content though.

[jocelyn]

[QUOTE=Phoenix Real Estate Agent]Jocelyn, what is SSI?

Also, anyone care to take a look at the code of that page and see if there are any big no-no's?[/QUOTE]
SSI = Server Side Include
It's to add a document in an other document from the server. Like add a menu file to a page, so you change the menu and save it and all pages get the menu change.

Use a spider simulator or an html validator to be sure.

[Phoenix Real Estate Agent]

Thanks for the definition! I didn't know that could be done.

HTML validators won't work for me because my site is written with HTML, .NET and .ASPx.

Just hoping someone who knew a lot could look. All the other pages are written the same, so if a no-no was found on the main page Real Estate Agent Directory then it would most likely be on the others to and therefore easy to find and fix.

How about content, is there enough compared to the 53 or so links on that page?

[dilligaf]

Phoenix, I popped a couple of those links, nothing personal and good idea. (Getting it cached from here, but once is enough)

You could prove me wrong by making a new html page with a straight text link something to the effect of don'tclickme.htm. Link it from home and look for the cache.

[Phoenix Real Estate Agent]

[QUOTE=dilligaf]Phoenix, I popped a couple of those links, nothing personal and good idea. (Getting it cached from here, but once is enough)

You could prove me wrong by making a new html page with a straight text link something to the effect of don'tclickme.htm. Link it from home and look for the cache.[/QUOTE]

More poor little brain got lost here. What do you mean "you popped a..." (deleted?) and "but once is enough"??? I have only used the KY's as a link to that page once, maybe twice, I just noticed a place where I may have done it a second time. But, you pulled (or popped) both? :huh: In my first post, I gave a shortcut, third level domain link, no KW's.

Guess I need to wake up a bit more. :nap:

[dilligaf]

I was just re-reading and saw it in a couple places (not with kw's). Generally it's a good idea to include them (new pages) in forum sigs as they seem to get cached pretty quickly.

Nothing personal, I was thinking it was rather clever. Soz Dude

[Phoenix Real Estate Agent]

Not clever... and we are getting way off track here. I am just trying to give other forum members a way to view the page and get someone to review for me.

[dilligaf]

Once is enough... Back on track, so you gonna test that straight link from your home page?

[Phoenix Real Estate Agent]

Give more specifics and I will.

[dilligaf]

Make a new html page and link to it directly from your home page, call it anything and it may contain anything. Look for the cache. If it get's cached more quicly than there would be merit to the URL string concern. If not I'm just blowing smoke up your a$$.

I am assuming your home page is fairly strong because it gets fresh dates daily. I find that straight links from interior pages that get fresh dates get cached in about two days.

[Phoenix Real Estate Agent]

Okay, here's what I'll do...

I'll make a link from my HP to a new page about my site being featured on ABC News 15 the other night. What do you suggest the anchor text should be for the link from my HP. Again, the page will be all about me being featured on the news the other night. Asking on the HP, something like "did you hear about website on ABC15 News..."

[dilligaf]

The anchor text will have no effect unless it's a page that you intend to keep and rank for later.

[Phoenix Real Estate Agent]

Oh ya...

I'm always thinking about SERP's when creating a new page or section. No need this time as it will only be up a few weeks.

Thanks!

[seo guy]

Although those pages should be spiderable my opinion is they will never get PR, why? Because there are still to many variables to parse in the URL such as 2 "=" signs and 1 "&" pagerank does not want to propogate into a URL like that because it thinks SID and infinite loop, Matt I know the technical terms may be confusing but just take my word for it, those pages will not do if your end goal is getting PR, however they are cachable it will just take time.

On a tangent, if PR never decides to update again (Which may be the case) then PR considerations should matter anyways. You may want to have your webmaster cut out the javascript into an external file ( In understand with AA this may not be possible) but again there is no more you have to do to the page to get it cached but point a few links to it

[Phoenix Real Estate Agent]

Thanks Morgan!

I really haven't asked for any BL's to it yet. Guess I'll work on that now though.

Have a great weekend!