View Full Version : PR5 If I Don't Try, PR0 If I Do


mutatron
08-26-2004, 11:49 AM
My main website at www.dmgreer.com has a page rank of 5, and I really haven't done anything extra to get this. My website for the school where I take kung fu, www.wujidomartialarts.com, has a page rank of zero, after I've tried a number of SEO techniques on this site.

My own site was averaging about 45 unique visitors per day until this last month, where it's been more like 60. The Wujido site has been averaging something like 65/day for about four months. So the two sites seem about the same as far as traffic goes.

But, the Wujido site is number one for a number of desirable search terms on MSN, Yahoo, Altavista, anything but Google. If you search on stuff like "dallas martial arts", "dallas kung fu", "dallas tai chi", you'll find Wujido on the first page, and probably in the first link. This is what I want, and in fact five of the top ten search strings to get to our site use these terms or a variation on them. The top one is "wujido", which is a good sign since people are checking up on us by name. At least for that one term we are tops on Google, so I guess that means we aren't blacklisted.

Interestingly, there's another Dallas martial arts website that copied my keyword list verbatim, and so is also listed on the first Google "wujido" even though they have nothing to do with Wujido, and have not a single text reference to wujido in their site, except for their keyword list. So Google does look at keywords!

But back to the point, which is, why is www.wujidomartialarts.com PR0? How can my web store be PR2 when my home page is PR0? There was a time where I had a couple of "hidden" links, I had white letters on a dark blue background, but a page checker told me the links were being read as white on white. Maybe that's what messed me up, it's only been 4 to 6 weeks since I fixed that.

Other than that, can anyone take a look at my Wujido site and tell me why it would rank so low? I should say that I recently streamlined my keyword list. I admit I was stuffing somewhat, and listing phrases like "dallas martial arts", "dallas kung fu", etc., separately. So I read something about that the other day and decided to try the "dallas martial arts kung fu tai chi etc" approach.

dilligaf
08-26-2004, 12:00 PM
Muta, I moved it to site review as it seemed more appropriate. I'll have a look in a bit.

eCommando
08-26-2004, 02:40 PM
I think the other site is rank high because those keywords are not in a competitive area.

dilligaf
08-26-2004, 05:59 PM
Muta, As far as rakings/PRL: A links check on the Link Popularity Tool shows dmgreer with 1507 total and wujidomartialarts with 98. Looks like there are just a couple sources for your links on the martial arts site http://search.yahoo.com/search?p=link%3Ahttp%3A%2F%2Fwww.wujidomartialarts.com&ei=UTF-8&fr=FP-tab-web-t&cop=mss&tab=

You're gonna need a few links to rank for anything competitive on Google.

mutatron
08-27-2004, 01:13 PM
I wonder if the difference is in whether or not I put the "www." on the front of the url. I notice that if I use no "www." for my own site, I get a PR0, but I get the PR5 if I do.

All those links to my own website are coming from other websites I've done, such as www.3dskimaps.com, www.luxefon.com, and www.hillcrestcheer.com. Note that 3dskimaps and hillcrestcheer are on the same server with dmgreer, but they still give a boost in links to dmgreer.

I have a similar family of Wujido websites, so you'd think they'd give more links, but in most of those links I used the non-www form, and only the ones that start with www are showing up.

So now I'm going back over all links to everything to make sure they have the www.

dilligaf
08-27-2004, 01:55 PM
Definitely, write all the links the same way and use it internally when linking home.