how crucial is it to get on dmoz?

[gizagizmo]

I have applied to get on dmoz a few months ago, although I know this is a very long process.

But how important is dmoz because it seems the major search engines put a hefty weighting for sites listed in dmoz.

Does anyone have a before and after indication of the difference it can make for
google and yahoo.

[seo guy]

Honestly DMOZ is great to have but it is not the be all and end all and you can do just fine without it, it is not like you get into DMOZ and all of a sudden you get a huge jump in serps. in fact you will see little to none at all, it just helps the sites reputation, the link isnt even a keyword so you dont get that benefit.

I would not cry if I were not in dmoz, in fact I have lots of sites that arent and they fair just fine in serps

[murugan]

if you want to be in DMOZ, then u have to wait for atleast 6 months and there are lots of sites waiting for a year and so.

DMOZ listing wont boost your site. But you may get some one way incoming links from directories which uses DMOZ databases.

The only benefit is that you can check the PR in the google directory before it updates the toolbar.

[gizagizmo]

The main reason I thought it would be of benefit was to get those links from directorys using dmoz.

Are these considered quality links? since I did some reasearch on the keyword for "gadgets" and found that the top site www.gadgets.com (http://) most of it's backlinks were from these type of directorys.

but is their high ranking like this because their domain is their keyword?

[murugan]

yes you are right. keywords in the domain plays a vital role in high rankings.

[repman]

[QUOTE=murugan]if you want to be in DMOZ, then u have to wait for atleast 6 months and there are lots of sites waiting for a year and so. (...)
[/QUOTE]

That depends on the category, or rather on the category editor. I have a website that got in the dmoz in 6 days (in September 2004) after submitting.

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[ResaleBroker]

[QUOTE=repman]That depends on the category, or rather on the category editor. I have a website that got in the dmoz in 6 days (in September 2004) after submitting.[/QUOTE]

I had a similar situation. I read up on the proper way to submit my real estate site and was accepted in under 60 days.

[xan]

Check the DMOZ board, it doesn't take up to a year uaually, but it can do in some cases due to the volume of sites we have to index. I look after my cat well and update once a month on average.

[Audrey]

I asked about this in another forum. I was concerned because I've submitted to dmoz twice and still am not in. I was told that much is up to the individual editor and if you do not have something unique on your site that others in that category don't offer, you won't get in. I don't know if that's true, but pass it along as information I've recently received.

And in any case, if submitting doesn't get me into dmoz I don't think there's much I can do about it--although I'd love to hear from someone who knows the secret if there is one.

[knowledge1]

dude, my DMOZ listing has brought me less than 10 uniques in the last year. Completely overrated in mt opinion.

[Audrey]

I thought the point of listing with dmoz was not to get unique visitors, but to increase the liklihood of a good search engine rank.

Have I been misinformed?

[vivekar]

DMOZ does not bring you traffic, directly.
It brings you link reputation and indirect traffic.

There are hundreds (322 to be exactly) of sites which use DMOZ content (http://dmoz.org/Computers/Internet/Searching/Directories/Open_Directory_Project/Sites_Using_ODP_Data/) for their websites.


By listing in DMOZ, you get traffic indirectly from those websites which use ODP data.

[seojedi]

Being listed in DMOZ is great and can help your site, but it is not a magic bullet. The fact that it can take 6+ months to even get someone to look at it is ridiculous. I say, submit and forget about it. Don't lose any sleep over it.

[summy]

Although a lot of directories use DMOZ, it's not crucial at all. You can do fine without DMOZ, in both GOOGLE as well as YAHOO.

[summy]

Dmoz listing is essential, period!
You can live without it, but it adds much more value, a lot more backlinks, and sometimes a lot more traffic to your website.
It is a very slow process to get listed, I know, but it's worth it to follow it up and email them, post in their forums until you get listed.
A lot of directories are powered by DMOZ, and these directories have nice pr for most of their categories. Which means more pr to you.
Also more back links from these directories, and most of the times this means more traffic.

[mattmdesign]

Hey Summy, so you're saying that a DMOZ listing is "not crucial at all", but is "essential, period!"? Okay, that makes sense. ;)

[Nick0r]

Basically, it's not essential, there and billions of sites without listings and still doing well in SERPs, it does help as DMOZ does have a lot of mirror sites such a google directory and the extra links can't hurt.

[bikermike62]

I have come across quite a few competitor sites that have between 50 and 100 backlinks coming into them from various "mirror" DMOZ sites. Do I understand correctly that people are saying these links do not have much value. If they do then I have to get in to DMOZ right? If they dont, I should be able to compete with these sites with just a few high quality rankings. The next question is how do I get quality links in a niche that has fairly low PR ranking sites...

Best Regards,

[sarahk]

[QUOTE=gizagizmo]I have applied to get on dmoz a few months ago, although I know this is a very long process.

But how important is dmoz because it seems the major search engines put a hefty weighting for sites listed in dmoz.

Does anyone have a before and after indication of the difference it can make for
google and yahoo.[/QUOTE]
You must be pretty pleased to be in after only a few months!

http://dmoz.org/Regional/North_America/United_States/Oregon/Localities/G/Grants_Pass/Business_and_Economy/

[Michi]

I get more traffic from SEOGuys Signature (see below :) ) . Domoz brings me almost nothing.

(My listing is up now for 6 month in Dmoz)

[sarahk]

[QUOTE=Michi]I get more traffic from SEOGuys Signature (see below :) ) . Domoz brings me almost nothing.[/QUOTE]
Hi Michi

That wouldn't surprise anyone, and even then you have to look at traffic that generates revenue versus window shoppers. I get a huge amount of traffic from the forum posts I make, but they aren't potential customers.

So why do I still have links in my sig? for the same reason DMOZ is important
It increases the number of inbound links I have

There is the argument that these links are more natural but because of the number of directories cloning DMOZ data it remains important.

I also have a hobby site called Botspotter (http://botspotter.net/) and I've researched some of the crawlers who visit my sites. A good number of them index DMOZ and go from there. This means that being in DMOZ gives you a priority placement in that search engine - and the funny thing is that Google will then index that site too!

Sarah

[bikermike62]

Thanks, thats more or less the conclusion I came to. I have submitted to DMOZ but less than 2 months ago, so I'm not expecting a result anytime soon...

[Web Gazelle]

Get a DMOZ idol and pray to it daily. I am going to get me one for DMOZ and Google. I think that would be a good way to boost my rankings in the SERPS. ;)

[sarahk]

Or you could try being an editor and help keep the directory going. You may not be editing your category but you're making it easier for editors to get to your site...

[dirtdog1960theone]

[QUOTE=Michi]I get more traffic from SEOGuys Signature (see below :) ) . Domoz brings me almost nothing.

(My listing is up now for 6 month in Dmoz)[/QUOTE]

"I get more traffic from SEOGuys Signature..."" heh heh

[dirtdog1960theone]

[QUOTE=vivekar]DMOZ does not bring you traffic, directly.
It brings you link reputation and indirect traffic.

There are hundreds (322 to be exactly) of sites which use DMOZ content (http://dmoz.org/Computers/Internet/Searching/Directories/Open_Directory_Project/Sites_Using_ODP_Data/) for their websites.

By listing in DMOZ, you get traffic indirectly from those websites which use ODP data.[/QUOTE]

good post submitting to dmoz get you get in the google directroy which can't be a bad thing...

Better question is: Does a google directory listing give your page a pagerank vote and allinanchor link back?

Also take popular keyword, look up top site in google, and check for backlinks from 322 listed above...

[Thermit]

>> how crucial is it to get on DMOZ?

Another way of saying this is...

How crucial is it for me to win the lottery to be happy.

Answer: Not at all. But it won't hurt.

[sarahk]

there was an article in our local paper about a woman in LA who won 27 mill in some lottery but after tax it equated to 9 mill.

At that ratio ... Lets hope you get credit for all 322 sites and not just 100 of them.

[bikermike62]

Anyway everyone knows ther is no such thing as a DMOZ idol....

....its the DMOZ fairy, she lives next door to GoogleBot, and if everyone on this forum claps at once, she'll come to life and grant you an entry in the Open Directory.... ;)

By the way; Open Directory; that's a laugh isn't it?! :D

[summy]

now the ODP's forum is down (www.resource-zone.com)! that's great :(

[Web Gazelle]

If the google gods like your offering then you will show better in Google. I have yet to see any evidence of a Dmoz fairy. Still waiting to get in there.

[madmonk]

according to latest SES report, dmoz value is gonna be diminished :-(

[Web Gazelle]

[QUOTE=madmonk]according to latest SES report, dmoz value is gonna be diminished :-([/QUOTE]
All I can say is it serves them right for taking their sweet time when doing the submissions and I know they get alot of them but if your big like they are then you need to expect that. :furious:

[sirlinksalot]

[QUOTE=bikermike62]Anyway everyone knows ther is no such thing as a DMOZ idol....

....its the DMOZ fairy, she lives next door to GoogleBot, and if everyone on this forum claps at once, she'll come to life and grant you an entry in the Open Directory.... ;)

By the way; Open Directory; that's a laugh isn't it?! :D[/QUOTE]
:huh:

[Web Gazelle]

Dmoz will give you a solid inbound link. This will help your position in the SERPs, where your traffic will come from. You will also get links from all the sites that use ODP for their directory. These extra links may and may not give you additional traffic.