Review my site www.skelta.com

[dominicsp]

Hi Guys,
Please review my site
1: The URL of the website -www.skelta.com
2: The keywords you are targeting - workflow, workflow software, workflow engine and workflow framework
3: Any and all SEO that you have attempted - By reading in some SEO firms I have written the tags and tried to get some backlinks

I check the ranking everyday and I have come upto the 7th page for the kwyword workflow but have gone back to the 14th page donno why?
Thanks and SEO-GUY u are great!!

[creative666]

Link building and content. I can see that you have a load of content on the site already, but the key is to keep adding more content and update the site as often as you can, even daily.

Next thing to target more of is link building, as you probably already no, its a popularity contest with search engines. The more links you have pointing to your site - in the search engines eyes the more popular you are. The trick is to get links from sites that are on the same topic - so anything .NET related is great, or workflow related.

Make sure that the site is listed in all of the free directories, maybe look at some of the paid for directories as well. This can be a quick way of boosting your backlink count.

The site as it stands is well designed and has a good start on seo as well. On the home page you have a lot of content, I would link deeper into the site from there. It is a great way to get the spiders deeper into your site quickly. Instead of using link text like Click here for more or More info try and use key phrases for the site.

Good luck with the site.

[dirtdog1960theone]

Snappy goodlooking informative site. I like it. Try this. For subpages: have an html link to your index page and javascript link to all others. For your index page have javascript to all your subpages in javascript.

[dominicsp]

Thanks Craig and Dan,
I was losing direction, I will incorporate all the changes into the site.
I do land on the first few pages for some of the keywords, but cannot manage to get to the first page.
The SERPS for workflow vary from 7th page to 15th page every alternate day, any idea why is it happening so? is there any major update on Google

[seo guy]

Umm Dan why would you want to Javascript all your links? Dom do not do that, you want appropriate spider flow throughout your pages

[dominicsp]

Hi SEO-GUY
I'm a big fan of your's! and will do it on my hoem page in the next few minutes and link it with the text SEO :)

[creative666]

Hi Dom, I think that you might have missed the actual post, he said not to internaly link your pages together with JavaScript, by doing this you will stop the spiders from crawling through the site as they are not good at crawling JavaScript links.

I guess you only saw his signature!

[dominicsp]

Ha ha ha, Thanks Craig!
I just read the line below as a continuation and thot of helping SEO-GUY.
I have used the no script tag for the java script links, i hope that helps. and i want to change all the home page image links back to text links to my homepage

[creative666]

Have you looked into using more CSS as the navigation instead of using a JavaScript based menu?

[dominicsp]

Nopes, I will have my graphics team look into it. U mean to say no script tag is of no use

[dirtdog1960theone]

[QUOTE=seo guy]Umm Dan why would you want to Javascript all your links?[/QUOTE]

Yes you are right. I did not mean all.

Me - "have an html link (from your subpages) to your index page and javascript link to all others."

Yes this is okay. If you want to optimize the index page.

Me - "For your index page have javascript to all your subpages in javascript."

This could give you an optimized page rank for the index. If you are worried about being spidered on sub pages then yes this would be trouble. I think I found a tradeoff solution to this but I need a screenshot to explain it! :eyes:

An alternative is to get external links to subpages to let the spiders find them.

[dominicsp]

Hi Dan,
The get the point you are trying to make. U feel that the page rank will get distributed if there are too many links in the home page

[creative666]

I would not use JavaScript in any of my internal links and I would not recommend it at all, besides it hindering the natural flow of page rank around the site, it will also stop the spiders and crawlers from the search engines - as we know they are not good at following JavaScript links.

[dirtdog1960theone]

[QUOTE=dominicsp]Hi Dan,
The get the point you are trying to make. U feel that the page rank will get distributed if there are too many links in the home page[/QUOTE]

Thanks I do tend to babble a bit don't I... Age ugh

[dirtdog1960theone]

[QUOTE=creative666]I would not use JavaScript in any of my internal links and I would not recommend it at all, besides it hindering the natural flow of page rank around the site, it will also stop the spiders and crawlers from the search engines - as we know they are not good at following JavaScript links.[/QUOTE]


Yeah I don't want to annoy you and SEO Guy but I just happened to find this right out of a Google scientists mouth:

http://www.webpronews.com/insiderreports/searchinsider/wpn-49-20040308CrawlerInsightsFromGoogleandYahoo.html

"The bot, says Craig, can find content that's unlinked. That's right, the Google bot can find single pages dangling unlinked in space. He didn't explain how this happens. "

So linking for the sake of spidering may not be a good idea especially if it reduces page rank.

Your thoughts? Flames?

[creative666]

Must be magic then, I have never seen Google being able to crawl a page that was not linked to unless it was submitted via the addurl page.

Have to see it to believe it though ;)

It has been reported that Google does at times request pages that do not exist on servers. I currently have directories on a few of my sites that are not linked to by any other web page as they were only put online for the sake of showing some one a few photos - lets see if Google can find these.

I still would not use any form of JavaScript links on a site, it stops the natural flow of page rank and spider activity abd the ability to use good anchor text. It was also a passing comment I would not take it as gospel untill there is wide spread reporting of it which IMO I doubt will happen.

Lets not forget the people who surf with JavaScript disabled, they would not be able to follow the links - so there is a usability and accessability issue.

[dominicsp]

[QUOTE=creative666]
Lets not forget the people who surf with JavaScript disabled, they would not be able to follow the links - so there is a usability and accessability issue.[/QUOTE]
Hey Craig, I have used <no script> tag to overcome that. U can disable java script and vie my website www.skelta.com

[seo guy]

Umm I am not sure that the <no script> tag is followed and would not count on it, having an html text link to a sitemap and then from that to all your important pages will get you spidered but to boost your various pages with your own internal links might as well make use of more anchors, remember each internal page counts as a link to another page. It can be a tough call because you dont want to compromise the aesthetics of your site with links everywhere, solution? More inbound links, deeplinked to specific internal pages with internal anchors

And PS thanks for the backlink I really appreciate it :)

[seo guy]

And dirt I think I know where you were going with the javascript, some Guy wrote an artilce on Channeling Pagerank using Javascript (http://www.google.com/search?sourceid=navclient&ie=UTF-8&q=channeling+pagerank) like 2 years ago and back then it was the cats ass, but that sort of PR power is depricated now so better to allow natural flow

[dirtdog1960theone]

[QUOTE=creative666]<snip>Have to see it to believe it though ;) <snip>
[/QUOTE]

With regards to Search Engine Optimization, you nailed it. Would search engine techs spread a little disinformation to through off dyi and pros? Hmm I would wink.

You brought up some other excellent points. The value of html link for all in anchor.

And test test test:

[QUOTE=creative666]that are not linked to by any other web page as they were only put online for the sake of showing some one a few photos - lets see if Google can find these[/QUOTE]

Ps cool seascapes and canal photos

[creative666]

I was up at 05:30 for the sun rise to get those pictures :)

By the way, those are not the pages that I was talking about, there are no links to these other sets of pages - lets see if Google can find these.

[dirtdog1960theone]

[QUOTE=seo guy]And dirt I think I know where you were going with the javascript, some Guy wrote an artilce on Channeling Pagerank using Javascript (http://www.google.com/search?sourceid=navclient&ie=UTF-8&q=channeling+pagerank) like 2 years ago and back then it was the cats ass, but that sort of PR power is depricated now so better to allow natural flow[/QUOTE]

hee hee

yeah just trying to be a seo disciple but I flubbed it. wink