MSN beta

[jlknauff]

Does anyone know when the new MSN search is supposed to be released?

[stebal4]

I'd like to know too, cause I'm top for every keyphrase I'm targeting!!! Hope they don't change it too much :D

[dilligaf]

[QUOTE=stebal4]I'd like to know too, cause I'm top for every keyphrase I'm targeting!!! Hope they don't change it too much :D[/QUOTE]
Yea, I had a look.... you're really kicking glass.

[stebal4]

[QUOTE=dilligaf]Yea, I had a look.... you're really kicking glass.[/QUOTE]

thats right, and I haven't got a clue how! Even for 'buy glass blocks' and 'glass blocks forum' my other site is top.

I think msn are on the right track.

[xan]

well as i keep saying, lets not get too excited about positions right now....the index is around 5 billion pages. Google's is about over 8 billion now. There's a bit missing there. The algo is being refined and tested, so you never know what may happen next really. Its due to be integrated in longhorn when that is released around 2007 apparently, but msn search is in the new year..when exactly??? your guess is mine ;)

[wyrickj]

Longhorn Client version is due in 2006 and the Longhorn Server is due in 2007. I think I rank top 10 because Bill knows I am a MS Geek. Bill please don't drop me lol.

[xan]

lol wyrickj!!

I don't really care about the listings, but Bill sure wouldn't like me!

Go Google, Go Firefox, GO OpenOffice, Go zipgenius......etc..... :p

[wyrickj]

Well if MSN is going to keep me where I am currently I'll say Screw Google. I am dead in the serps due to there stupid sandbox filter on there.

If I am still where I am when they release the new MSN I am going to do a report on them.

[xan]

lol...

that would rather intersting actually. I must say I'm following the beta closly being an information retrieval bod, and I wonder what the final showdown will be like. Google will always hold a special place in my heart, because it was the first to take charge and use sensible algorithmic and logarithmic models and measures. Everyone else has been playing catch up in SE world, but in the research world things have moved on considerably. Let the games begin.....

gentlemen...place your bets....

:math:

[xan]

Just wanted to let you know that I have been monitoring results since the very first release for a 'dud' query string (so its not subjective), and have notice big changes since the first one.

Now....since it got pulled on the 19th and came back again recently, the results have changed again. I'm not saying its a 'rule' or feature or anything but have a look at the type of sites that come up (retail, blog, etc...)

[interactive]

Yup, the results have definitely changed. For my site, I'm seeing odd categories in our directory being listing. Not the main URL, but http://www.interactivevoices.com/cgi-bin/view_category.pl?cid=1 which has little content...simply a list of names. This might coincide with your retail idea. Just a thought. Personally, I liked the previous algo better.

[xan]

I think everyone is going to like the earlier results better as they all ranked high! Try using a completely random query and see if you think the results are relevant. Best test really...