Getting Un-Filtered in Google

[Kevin 11]

I've been doing some reading on how to get a site "un-filtered" in Google and have some concerns about some potential limitations. Specifically, I'm concerned about rankings in other SE's and losing traffic from the target audience.

If you swap keywords with one that attracts the same target audience, this is not a huge factor (eg. SEO > SEM). But, what if you target a word that does not have any obvious replacements that will not trip more filters? An example would be "Phentermine". I'm thinking any replacement word would be one that would cause the same problems.

In this scenario, if you chose a term that was "safe" and did a swap and replace, you would lose your target audience and money from high listings in other SE's. Is there a way implement this method on Google without affecting the other SE's?

Would modifiying the robots.txt file to disallow Yahoo spiders for a short term work or would the site get booted before the new Google results are in?

I guess I'm trying to have the best of both worlds, but you cant blame me for trying :D

Kevin 11

[jocelyn]

Well Yahoo will give more weight some factors than Google.
This makes it hard to be good in both. unless you do the tricks to give a page to this bot and an other one to this other bot and finally this page to visitors.
I'd never do this and I don't know how.

[Kevin 11]

Thanks Jocelyn... I too try and avoid serving different results for different visitors and/or spiders.

In my situation, if I did this it would mean creating a new page served only to Google in order to preserve Yahoo rankings. Maybe there is no elegant solution to this.

Anyone else have the magic solution?

[Kevin 11]

On last thing Jocelyn, I think it may not actually be that tough to do well in both. The one common denominator I have seen is the amount of backlinks.

So, if you build a site for Google, and have enough backlinks it may be possible to do very well in both.

I didnt even realize how much weight Yahoo gives to links until I ran across the #2 site in Yahoo for the keyword "gambling". The site has no gambling content at all, its actually a pharmacy website, but it has over 32000 well anchored backlinks, so I guess sheer link volume can get the job done.

[jocelyn]

[QUOTE=Kevin 11]On last thing Jocelyn, I think it may not actually be that tough to do well in both. The one common denominator I have seen is the amount of backlinks.[/QUOTE]
I could not say... I don't look at Yahoo or any other than Google... No time... LOL

[eCommando]

Yeah... where is the balance on post-florida and Yahoo for on page optimization?

[SPARKO]

In my circumstance backlinks from yahoo etc seem to get noticed a lot quicker than with google even though the yahoo bot visits my site well once or twice a month ( not very often) compared to google who come every 2 days.