View Full Version : What does it take to get link from DMOZ???
01-12-2005, 10:12 PM
Really want to get listed on DMOZ but no luck so far. Anyone know what the average time is to be listed.? thanks.
01-12-2005, 11:56 PM
Time depends on your site and if there is an active editor in your category.
IF you can't beat them..... Join them! Dmoz is always looking for quality editors.
01-13-2005, 02:18 AM
Patience and persistence is what it takes.
DMOZ is too big for its own boots and trying to get a site submitted is hard work.
If the category you want to get listed in has an editor (look at the bottom of the category) you can send them a message. You will probably get a reply telling you they are volunteers and are very busy e.t.c. but it can sometimes help. It worked for me once.
I have read on other forums that becoming an editor is not as easy as you would expect. They seem to have a very strict criteria even though they struggle to deal with the work load.
01-13-2005, 07:23 AM
As a DMOZ editor I can tell you I submitted an application 6 times before I became an editor. Your application has to be very good for you to even be considered. Make sure that you have no typo's and that your submitted sites are both relavant to the cat you are applying for and a good representation of the category. Also, if you have a site affiliated with the category you are applying for and that site makes money....good luck with that. DMOZ creates a large influx of backlinks to your site because of the number of clones online. Think of it like this, if you were an editor of a directory that would make or break a site would you let me as a person who sells widgets edit the widget category? Not only could I add my own sites, but, I could make sure my competition didn't ever show up. One last thing about applying is make sure you apply for a very low level category and work your way up. Applying for Shopping->Widgets on your first go will not only get you declined but probably laughed at ;) it would make more sense to apply for Shopping->Widgets->Regional->North America->United States->Kansas and work up to it slowly. Becoming an editor is not a matter of them versus you, it's a matter of those applying using a bit of common sense and looking at it from the point of view of those in control of the directory.
To sum up:
Use common sense!
01-13-2005, 07:37 AM
[QUOTE=palespyder]Also, if you have a site affiliated with the category you are applying for and that site makes money....good luck with that.[/QUOTE]
My category is edited by my main competitor!! I contacted DMOZ about this when I first noticed and they did not reply. As a commercial category I was very concerned about the conflict of interest this created. Fortunately we have a good relationship with this competitor and he has not blocked any changes to our listings but it is a dangerous policy and not one I agree with.
01-13-2005, 07:41 AM
[QUOTE=SteveH]My category is edited by my main competitor!! [/QUOTE]
Thats exactly what I mean. It reminds me of the old cartoon of the fish swimming in a plugged in blender. I would just be waiting for the proverbial hammer to fall.
01-16-2005, 12:23 AM
>>>>What does it take to get link from DMOZ???
Unique content. Unfortunately, it seems that your site may not qualify for a listing. Submit it and forget about it. If it happens to get past an editor then count your blessings.
I'd look for other promotional opportunities - there are a number of other directories that'll gladly accept your submission and list your site, both free and paid.
Bottom line - a dmoz listing is not necessary. Don't be fooled into thinking otherwise.
01-16-2005, 12:28 AM
I 'm not interested in becoming an editor at this time; just want to get listed with DMOZ; I know wedding gifts are competitive, and therefore knew that it would be tough to get my site listed, and also know that it would help our site tremendously if we got listed with DMOZ. PaleSpyder, thank you for your insite on this and recommendations. As an editor, can you reommend to me how I can better my chances of getting www.blueveil.com listed in DMOZ ? Thank you.
01-18-2005, 04:37 PM
Really you just have to submit it and forget it...
There's really not much control, except to make sure you follow the rules when submitting and don't submit more than once
01-19-2005, 09:04 AM
choose a city, town, community close to where you live. I found out too late.
go into ODP and see if your local chamber of commerce or bus route is listed,
local banks, parks and rec, etc.
They don't care about the category you want, they want someone to editor their site. the best advise given to me was actually here, go through this thread, backwords, you'll see dmoz for dummies . org . Read it . good advise.
Whatever you do: DON"T MAKE ANY POLITICALLY DRIVEN STATEMENTS !!!
("DMOZ Editor wannabe" HERE) :shoot:
Don't forget, They now have over 66,000 editors, it's pretty hard to pick a topic that an already existing editor doesn't have. If you really want to become an editor go see joeant, the info is also on this thread. I registered right away and now have "travel" as my category. They are not as big as "DMOZ" yet, but when they are, you'll be back hear asking how to get on joeant. Thats all the advise I have, If its right or not, I guess I'll soon find out with the next "POST REPLY" :huh:
01-23-2005, 05:16 PM
Someone on here said that when you get a link in dmoz it accualy counts as alot more in a way.. i forget what way lol is that true?
01-23-2005, 05:23 PM
I cant even find out where to accualy apply their ugly site confuses me
01-23-2005, 06:26 PM
In partial answer to your question type in "linkeverything",at google: all one word, look at the sites, majority all my postings, DMOZ is forth one down, Now I'm not in the actual DMOZ database, probably because I keep doing things to make my site crash, (PHP problems), thats another issue :rolleyes: I thought the same thing though. All I know for sure is that google extracts DMOZ info for their search engine, making the quality of your search in google more refined for what you, as a user are searching for.
I think the only problem with that though is you should check first to see how many other skateboard related items are already in the dmoz database, and If your not working on(META KEYWORDS) Search Engine Optimization like your competitors are you'll still be found on the 18th page of the google search. I'm personally experimenting right now with threads and posts, I have people from all over the world veiwing my site, yet my current visits are low, Largely in part of my site crashes, and current lack of content, So I really can't give you a definate yes or no, except for the fact that my posting with dmoz is the forth one down. the 12th line on the second page of the google search makes me laugh, It's a posting I did here on SEO-GUY, a week ago............... Check it out. The google lists, not the sites themselves, I don't care if you see them or not, and I'm not making a plug, I'm just letting you know what I've seen as a pattern, within the last 2 weeks :D
Funny thing is I became "AN EDITOR" on joeant, nothing to be found. DMOZ competion. I guess Google doesn't find it a good enough resource, when they
can use the 65,000 free labourers at DMOZ, and alot of what DMOZ already has
is probably a duplicate of other human editited sites. I'm curious to know if the
DMOZ site is organized and or owned by other Stanford U students, That could
account for alot, and I must admit, It's a pretty thorough structured site. But as far as your original question goes, you can be alot more productive with the same
amount of time attempting to get listed there. Neither Google, Nor DMOZ own the
internet, they just have a slight advantage right now, Watch what happens when Microsoft releases there new search engine. People are flighty, Whats great today
is old tommorow, I'm just trying to focus more on valuable content verses high rankings. Eventually the people at home decide what site they want, You have to market your site properly, With or without the search engines. Google made it
all through word of mouth, reciporcial linking, and a damn smart spider. THEY never advertised once. After my site is up (3 weeks) I have a section called:
"Everything Google" going all the way back to there original site "BACKRUB".
01-23-2005, 06:46 PM
Crazy, ya there seemed to be alot of skateboard related links on there i think 600 and some.. so i guess chances are that I wont be on. Sucks too my main competitor is like 4th on the dmoz skateboarding category. and they have over 33 000 backlinks in 3 SE's i have a totaly of 0 haha....... stress... lol
02-02-2005, 09:39 AM
I found that some editors do have a life outside of reviewing sites. I simply sent an email to the editor for the category I submitted to. Politly asked if my site had been reviewed and if there was a reason that it wasn't included that I would like to know so I could fix it. The answer was that he was very busy and hadn't been able to look at it yet. He looked at it shortly after and I am now in DMOZ. :cool:
02-10-2005, 08:16 PM
I got my site listed into DMOZ with in 3 months. I think the editor was a SEO geek and he liked all my lists and articles. I got turned down at my first application for DMOZ editor so I have become a Skaffe.com editor and a JoeAnt.com editor to get me up to speed.
I am L2 editor at Skaffe.com now and applying for my 3rd category. I am the sole SEO & SEM Tools editor and share SEO & SEM Services with 4 other editors. It has been a real learning curve working at Skaffe.com.
I am thinking of applying at Zeal after I get a few points at JoeAnt.
I also keep a list of top web directorys that you may be interested in checking out. www.seocompany.ca/directory/top-web-directories.html (http://www.seocompany.ca/directory/top-web-directories.html) .
02-11-2005, 05:04 AM
The value of getting a DMOZ listing is that it also powers 312 other directories (not including the clones) - so you get a lot of "bang for your buck"
02-11-2005, 08:09 AM
SEOforGoogle1: I would like to see a list of them and see how deep they get crawled. Even my link in Google Directory is so deep that it only has a PR0. But I do think you have a good valid point. There are now a number of directory software packages that have scripts for filling their directory from DMOZ. I was even told that Morgan filled his directory from DMOZ, not sure if that is so or not.
02-11-2005, 08:17 AM
I am efforting to get you the list of 312 sites, may take a bit of time... 8-|
02-11-2005, 08:50 AM
SEOforGoolge1: Hey another list - send it over. I will post it on my site : )
>powers 312 other directories
blueveil - suggest you forget about DMOZ and find other means to promote your site.
02-21-2005, 08:37 AM
web gazella ....
what???? be nice, couteous??? have you lost your mind son! working on machines all day, sometimes we forget to also be people.
02-21-2005, 08:50 AM
It got me a link, and that inturn got me a link in the DMOZ clones. These all show up now when I check my backlinks in MSN. So now that I am in DMOZ I can go back to being rude and and an all around jerk. :rolleyes:
02-21-2005, 09:59 AM
From http://www.dmoz.org/add.html a site's placement in the directory is subject to change or deletion at any time at our sole discretion.
02-21-2005, 01:37 PM
Who says DMOZ editors dont have a sense of humour
02-22-2005, 07:34 AM
Now that would be just plane mean. :eek:
02-23-2005, 10:58 PM
haha ... that's pretty funny :D and so is this: http://blogparty.net/sweeties.wmv sorry for being off-topic ;)
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