PageRank ?

[jocelyn]

- PageRank is a way for google to determine a page popularity and is a page per page thing.
- PageRank is the result of calculating links to your pages, using their PR values also.
- PageRank is calculated on the fly, but the visible PR of the toolbar is only updated about once a month.
- PageRank has an exponential shape, so to become PR6 is like 5-10 times harder compared to PR5.
- A link from a PR6 page has more value than one from a PR5 page with the same amouth of links.
- To increase PR you need to get more links from sites and directories.
- For a link to thansfer PR it must be a text or an image link. Javascript is often a mean to hide links.
- You can focus PageRank to some pages with your internal links and directory structure.
- PageRank is like water and links are like pipes. So much water coming from links and so many pipes to split it to the pages.
- Only PR3 (with low links count) and above will show in you backlinks.
- A very quick PR transfer calculation would be : ((PR of page * .85) / amount of links on the page)
- The PageRank gauge of the toolbar will be :

Grey = Not used for ranking (link in serps results) OR 0 = Page is new and has not been given a visible PR yet.

[junktechnology]

it's been like one month that i was searching for some report like that.
thanks, thanks, thanks

[seo guy]

Junk, please take a look at the forum rules http://www.seo-guy.com/forum/showthread.php?t=473 I realize they should be more prevalent, we only allow 2 links in your signature, no big deal we just have to ask you to remove 1. Please take a look when you get a chance, also welcome to the forum its great having you here!
Cheers

[globalspot28]

[QUOTE=jocelyn]- PageRank is a way for google to determine a page popularity and is a page per page thing.
- PageRank is the result of calculating links to your pages, using their PR values also.
- PageRank is calculated on the fly, but the visible PR of the toolbar is only updated about once a month.
- PageRank has an exponential shape, so to become PR6 is like 5-10 times harder compared to PR5.
- A link from a PR6 page has more value than one from a PR5 page with the same amouth of links.
- To increase PR you need to get more links from sites and directories.
- For a link to thansfer PR it must be a text or an image link. Javascript is often a mean to hide links.
- You can focus PageRank to some pages with your internal links and directory structure.
- PageRank is like water and links are like pipes. So much water coming from links and so many pipes to split it to the pages.
- Only PR3 (with low links count) and above will show in you backlinks.
- A very quick PR transfer calculation would be : ((PR of page * .85) / amount of links on the page)
- The PageRank gauge of the toolbar will be :

Grey = Not used for ranking (link in serps results) OR 0 = Page is new and has not been given a visible PR yet.[/QUOTE]



Interesting and quite informative. I am trying like hell to get my page rank up, right now I think it is like a big fat zero. :furious:

[ukplayersguide]

[QUOTE=globalspot28]Interesting and quite informative. I am trying like hell to get my page rank up, right now I think it is like a big fat zero. :furious:[/QUOTE]

I know the feeling. I just want to break my duck and get to first base...What's worse is that Googles cache of my old pages i had a month ago are showing a PR of 3 now. We're in the right place to learn how to get it up though (in the SEO sense of course.. :p )

Harvey

[Pyrrhonist]

[quote=globalspot28]I am trying like hell to get my page rank up, right now I think it is like a big fat zero.[/quote]
Wanna know your pagerank? It's easy!! Just download the Google toolbar and turn on advanced options, and your reported pagerank will show in the green bar.

To increase it, work on your link campaign a bit harder. The easiest way to get pagerank is to work on your linking campaign. If you can get people linking to you, your pagerank will probably go up.

[ABS659]

on 04-30-2004 I created the website
on 4-10 I found hosting and purchase a script that is on it now for linking.

we have approx 200 sites in the dating field linked to us.

but we have not page rank.

Can anyone explain this?

the website is http://www.people-services.net/

http://www.people-services.net/links

is our linking directory pointing to the other sites that link to

http://www.people-services.net/

[eCommando]

I think you may need to wait longer. My links from about 1 month ago hasn't shown up yet. Only the ones before that has shown up.

[wyrickj]

Jocelyn Google only shows you Backlinks if they have a PR4+ not PR3+. Seo-guy please correct me if I'm wrong but I have seen it posted on every SEO forum like SEOChat.

[SEO_AM]

Normally it is PR4 and up, but I have seen some 3's. Not often though.

For a link to show in your backlinks can take two update cycles.

Edit: Just took a quick check of BL's: found a PR2 from an internal page of an authority site. So... links with less than a PR4 are sometimes included.

[jlknauff]

This question may have already been answered but do your links going out lower your PR?

[jocelyn]

PR is like water, and links are like pipes.
If you add a pipe going out... what happens to the water ?

So yes you will be sending some PR out...
A backlink is supposed to be worth more than an internal link.
So linking out to get a backlink in return is still a good deal.

[ABS659]

So if you link out to a pr of a 4 and you are a pr of 7 then what? Is that still good? or do you lose water?

[jocelyn]

[QUOTE=ABS659]So if you link out to a pr of a 4 and you are a pr of 7 then what? Is that still good? or do you lose water?[/QUOTE]
It depends on many factors... chances are you are sending him more PR than you get.
But if the PR you send him was sent to your home lets say, you should get a higher PR for it.
But if backlinks are more valueable than an inbound link, then maybe you still get more out of it.
And sending PR to this site will increase his pages that will send you more PR... and on and on...
Some low PR links I had now show in my backlinks... so it can pay later too.

[ABS659]

You have a good point.

[Breckenridge Realtor]

[QUOTE=jocelyn]PR is like water, and links are like pipes.
If you add a pipe going out... what happens to the water ?
[/QUOTE]

I have been posting my Netscape Navigator bookmarks to my site for about 10 years. Some pages have hundreds of links on them. About a week ago I removed a few hundred broken links from these pages. I do not care if the pages I link to are getting PR benefit from my links, they are just for my own use and convenience. But I do not want do anything that would hurt my own site. Is there any down side to having these huge links pages

[seo guy]

not really, I wouldnt link to them from anywhere if they are jsut for you and you know the address, that way you dont waste any link benefit or PR on them, but they wont hurt you either

[Breckenridge Realtor]

I understand the idea of not wanting to give something for nothing. I like being able to access all of my links from any computer. If somehow I was "leaking" away my own meger PR, I would figure out how to use a spider.txt file to keep spiders away from those pages but if there is no benifit to me for doing so, I will not worry about it.

[Sprint Total]

[QUOTE=Breckenridge Realtor]I understand the idea of not wanting to give something for nothing. I like being able to access all of my links from any computer. If somehow I was "leaking" away my own meger PR, I would figure out how to use a spider.txt file to keep spiders away from those pages but if there is no benifit to me for doing so, I will not worry about it.[/QUOTE]

Just a quick note, it's robots.txt. You can also use the robots metatag. Check http://www.google.com/remove.html#exclude_website

Also, remember if you do that your pages won't be spidered if you block robots to access them

[John_L]

How does IBL help PR? If for example, I link back to my "index" page from my "about" page, does that help the PR of my "index" page? Can I just point to "index.html" or should I link back to my domain url? And what about the reverse, when I link to my "about" page from the index, is it better to link to "about.html" or to "www.myurl.com/about.html"?

From the water-in-pipes concept, if I had a newly launched site with no PR, but somehow managed to get a backlink from a single PR8 page with few outbound links, would that do wonders for my site?

[jocelyn]

[QUOTE=John_L]How does IBL help PR? If for example, I link back to my "index" page from my "about" page, does that help the PR of my "index" page?[/quote]Yes, PR will be sent to your homepage from the about page.

[QUOTE=John_L]Can I just point to "index.html" or should I link back to my domain url? And what about the reverse, when I link to my "about" page from the index, is it better to link to "about.html" or to "www.myurl.com/about.html"?[/quote]Always use www.domain.com for your home, not www.doamin.com/index.html. Linking to pages with about.html or www.domain.com/about.html will not make a difference except maybe the size of the page.

[QUOTE=John_L]From the water-in-pipes concept, if I had a newly launched site with no PR, but somehow managed to get a backlink from a single PR8 page with few outbound links, would that do wonders for my site?[/QUOTE]
Yes, it will help, but it's sometimes better to have 50 PR1 links than 1 PR8 link.

[John_L]

Thanks jocelyn, that was very helpful. I seriously need to get some SEO flash cards for reference or something lol.

[Breckenridge Realtor]

Since starting this thread many months ago, I have come across the notion that having more outbound links on your site than back links pointing to is actually a good thing in the eyes of the search engines. In this case, I would think that posting my bookmarks could actually be a good thing. Any further thoughts?

[SiteTutor]

It really all depends. A lot of outbound links going where? To sites with good info related to your own content or just random sites?
I would not focus on PR too much since there are many additional factors playing a role whether Google will give you the rankings that you want.
By the way: this is what Google says about page rank http://www.google.com/technology/index.html

Mike

[madmonk]

"I have come across the notion that having more outbound links on your site than back links pointing to is actually a good thing in the eyes of the search engines"


I dont get this. it shouldnt matter. more elaboration?