Another domain to get around sandbox?

[greippi]

My most important site has been in the Google sandbox for 2.5 months now and I'm not expecting it to bounce back anytime soon.

I opened a new website with different design and name but I don't want to abandon the old one. I worked very hard with it, I pay for the hosting and it get's some traffic from Yahoo.

What if I set up a new second domain address for the sandboxed site and change all links to point to the new address? Would Google think the site is new and I could get a clean start? Or will I get penalized for duplicate content? The pages would still be in the same server and use the same IP.

I wouldn't mind if the original pages all disappeared from Google since they have all dropped to around page 100.

Can I play with htaccess and tell googlebot that all the old pages have moved permanently to another address?

[Dominic]

Don't bother with a new site, ageing the links to the old one is the way to go IMO.

Personally I found my sites came out of 'sandbox' in the feb update. Things I had done differently was get a ton more relevent links in from different sites.

Keep building links to the existing site... links from your own serps especially and you may be suprised.

[madmonk]

I dont think anybody really knows how to get out of sandbox. of cuz you may hear of many ways/methods. but I doubt they work.

I didnt do anything to a web site of mine for 8 months. Not even a single link exchange. left there to wait out the sandbox. Just a simple experiment of my own.

and in Jan 2005, it came out of the sandbox by itself. Just like that.
love the traffic its getting .. :)

[greippi]

I've been reading about the sandbox effect. It says everywhere that it's for new sites making it hard for new spam sites to rank high.

My website was exactly one year old when it was sandboxed. In fact, the domain registration was continued with one year on 11th December 2004. The site was sandboxed two days later, 13th December. Traffic was dropped to 1/3 from what it was and it has stayed that way since then. The site is very difficult to find in Google with any search phrases.

My host is a good one and the site was not offline during that time. Whois info was not changed and AFAIK it is still on the same server. It seems like Google thinks my site and domain are new and has sandboxed it. Also, I don't see any backlinks that have been added since December.

Because of this, I have had to stop developing it and concetrate on another site.

It's not banned and Googlebot visits it many times a day.

I think this is a rare techinal issue with Google and not the sandbox effect. Any similar experience? Should I contact Google and ask what's going on?

http://www.whois.sc/polyfonics.net

[greippi]

Am I searching for a far-fetched answer here? After all, there were some significant changes in Google Serps in mid December, 2004.

[greippi]

After 5 months of waiting it finally looks like I'm getting out of the sandbox.

I did nothing to the site during this time, in fact I built another site and compeltely forgot the first one. I did email Google about my issue but I'm sure it wasn't the reason for getting back to normal rankings.