View Full Version : I can't believe what google did to my site.


ABS659
06-01-2004, 10:28 PM
I am a page rank of 6 on google.com

My keyword is it outsourcing los angeles.

http://www.intercore.net

I have good links from computer consulting sites. but nothing.

and other websites with lower page ranks are beating my site.

Please help.

very sad.

eCommando
06-02-2004, 12:26 PM
try allinanchor: outsourcing los angeles and your site came up as #5 so it's ranked okay with incoming links. However, when I try it out on the keyword density analyzer, you don't have any word combination of "outsourcing los angeles".

ABS659
06-02-2004, 12:34 PM
Which site are you talking about

http://www.avidware.com , pr 6
http://www.avidware.net pr 6
http://www.intercore.net pr 6
http://www.computernetworkingsolutions.net pr 7

I have great pr in my field but nothing is showing on the top pages of google.com :rolleyes:

please help...

ABS659
06-02-2004, 12:36 PM
I am also working on a perfect page design.

http://www.computernetworkingsolutions.net/Computer/Support/Los-Angeles.asp

I have borrowed some code and I am attempting to modify to my look and feal.

GByte
06-02-2004, 04:21 PM
[QUOTE=ABS659]I have borrowed some code and I am attempting to modify to my look and feal.[/QUOTE]

hmmm, looks distinctly like seo-guys code you have 'borrowed' there!!!

You have even left these two backlinks there that are on the bottom of seo-guys page too "World Wide Web Consortium : Google Information for Webmasters"

even the forum links on the right still have seo-guys variables on too!!! and to top it all you have nicked some of his images too for the right hand navigation called navCap.jpg

c'mon!! dont you even think in the slightest that you are taking the p*ss there?

ABS659
06-02-2004, 05:58 PM
I took it down...I feel bad...but I am desperate...

My wife lost her job and we need hits from the website.

I am losing my mind...We have a new baby...errrr

GByte
06-02-2004, 06:13 PM
hey scott, obviously I did'nt know that when I made the post, I am sorry to hear you are having bad times, its harsh when you are trying to sort things, but you will need to do better than copying someones page to do well out of your site.

I replied to your site review here, http://www.seo-guy.com/forum/showthread.php?t=764 ok again I was quite harsh and did'nt know your situation, but seriously, that site has a PR7 and you could make good use of that by making each page of the site unique.

Write a different content for each page, read these forums and apply all of the good knowledge that there is here to your site and you will soon be on the right track to getting the traffic you want and need.

Do that, then post your site again for review explaining what you have done then I am sure you will get a lot of good ideas, if needed, from the members here of how to better what you have done.

Good luck m8 and I hope things get sorted for you.

ABS659
06-02-2004, 09:38 PM
I know ....

leeds1
06-03-2004, 08:13 AM
hope things get better

I can hardly read the links on theleft - I would say this:

1: Stay focused - you have far too much stuff/ links - G* may not understand what your site is about
2: If your KWs are outsourcing los angeles then stick it in your title and other meta tags - just that
3: Have it as your H1 and possibly h2 tag
4: Have a link to outsourcing los angeles and name the page outsourcing-losangeles.html

then have other links of outsourcing something else and something else los angeles

Arizona Web
06-03-2004, 08:16 AM
You can't expect to rank well for a keyphrase if that keyphrase is not present in the title tag and / or the copy. Having it bolded here and there and/or in link text will help too.

I didn't find one instance of "outsourcing los angeles" in the copy.

ABS659
06-03-2004, 09:30 AM
Are there programs that help you make the page google.com friendly?

I have a page rank of a 7...that should be good in my area of expertise.

My competitors have 5's and 6's at best...

so is there a program I can purchase that I will enter my keywords and it will create the page..

or

is there a template?

Arizona Web
06-03-2004, 10:01 AM
I would just write the copy better. You can use dreamweaver to help you do that if you need a program.

ABS659
06-03-2004, 10:09 AM
I was thinking something like webposition gold?

Do they have a secret weapon for scoring high?

Arizona Web
06-03-2004, 10:28 AM
my secret weapon is hard work. I do not use web position gold.

ABS659
06-03-2004, 10:37 AM
are there examples of hard worked template pages for the rest of us who get 4.5 hours a sleep a night after working 10 hours for someone then driving 3 hours in rush hour traffic (both ways), 1 hour to eat and relax when I do get home ,and then 2 hours watching a new born baby then 3 hours of search engine work?

Arizona Web
06-03-2004, 10:54 AM
I wish I had the luxury of a whole hour to relax a day. I am a single dad with a 1 year old and run a very busy company. I make time to make my company successful, and it didn't happen over night. It happend over years.

If you want templates, go to a template company. If you want a successful online solution, work at it. Nobody can write your copy for you, and you can't steal somebody else's. There is no viable quick fix for SEO. It takes months of hard work and a couple of breaks. I am sorry that you are having trouble with your life. Regardless, nobody is going to spoon feed you their hard work. I would re-consider my approach when looking for help, because playing the "poor me" role is intolerable in my book.

Now get to work on writing some copy and title pages for your site, and don't steal other people's stuff.

ABS659
06-03-2004, 11:22 AM
Question for Airzona guy..

why doesn't a site with a pr of 7 and a keyword term of Arizona Web Design
show up on the first page over other sites with a pr of 4 and 5?

chachi
06-03-2004, 11:28 AM
Scott, take the time to do some research. Check out Seo Guy's tutorial, and a few others that you can easily find by searching here for "newbie" "seo tutorial" etc. http://www.seo-guy.com/tutorial.html

And, realize that your site is not going to go from ranking 294 for something to #1 in a week. People in these and other forums are glad to help, but not when you are not willing to help yourself.

Good luck.

-Chachi

sunny
06-03-2004, 11:37 AM
Question for Airzona guy..

why doesn't a site with a pr of 7 and a keyword term of Arizona Web Design
show up on the first page over other sites with a pr of 4 and 5?

ABS...PR isn't everything.. It used to be everything before the florida update.
PR is just 1 part for getting high rankings...and there are many parts that google look at.

I have seen PR 3 sites ranking in top 10 for high competitive keywords and PR 8 sites below them (keeping in mind that they are both targeting the same keyword)

There are many factors: Onpage optimization, variations of anchor text etc.

It takes time to rank high. It's all HARD WORK (I agree with arizona web)

Sunny

Arizona Web
06-03-2004, 11:37 AM
Because there are 3,170,000 other documents that google found in that SERP. Being in the top 50 is considered a success for some key phrases... being in the top 0.0157% of the results isn't bad. Plus I am working on it... hard. Our site will be there soon. I just started my SEO campaign a month and a half ago. I have tripled my traffic since then... because of all the hard work.

I list highly for lots of other related keyphrases and I am gunning for more competitive ones. That phrase unfortunately has a crappy KEI but it is something I need to work at anyways.

Like I said, there is no viable quick fix for SEO. This thread has become tiresome for me. Good luck on your hard work you have ahead of you. I hope your life gets better and your web site gets ranked highly. Drink you milk, eat your greens, stay in school, and don't do drugs. Be all you can be. I'm done with this thread.

serious
06-03-2004, 12:03 PM
[QUOTE=ABS659]Question for Airzona guy..

why doesn't a site with a pr of 7 and a keyword term of Arizona Web Design
show up on the first page over other sites with a pr of 4 and 5?[/QUOTE]

Just because you have a PR 7 doesn't mean you can rank instantly for any keyword you want, there are a lot more things that go into seo than that.

You do have the benefit of having the high pr so that when you make changes to your site you will see them in google very quickly, perhaps speeding up the process of improving your ranking since you can try many things over a short period of time.

I recommend you come up with a simple template that is highly seo optimized and work on improving it from there.

It doesn't have to be pretty, just professional and easy to read.

Dreamshop
06-03-2004, 02:26 PM
ABS...

It sounds like you're stressed and pretty unsure as to how to optimize your site. What most businesses do in this case is bring in the hire guns. People who know what to do, do it well, and can handle it quickly. Unforuntately it also sounds like you can't really afford to go that route, but maybe you could approach a local SEO company to barter an exchange of services?


There comes a time when as a business person you have to look at all your options and decide will work best for your situation.

You mentioned that you needed to increase traffic fast, but much like everyone else has said it takes lots of hard work and often months to get better SERPS. While optimizing your site will be helpful, it's not necessarily going to bring you revenue, or if it does it might not happen quickly.

The one thing you have to recognize is that there is NO magic pill when it comes to business. It all boils down to time and money. It takes plenty of investing both see profits coming back. If you're in a time crunch the best thing you can do is start approaching your prospective clients directly.

As others have said, Pagerank isn't everything...and in more than one way.

I've been doing online marketing consulting for four years and I have just a measly PR4 and pretty nonexistent serps, but it's not something I'm concerned about because almost all of my clients are people I approach. I spend my time making THEIR websites successful and I'm good enough that they send other clients my way. And I will tell you right now I am NOT a salesperson, nor do I have a staff to handle that for me. It's all about getting the right exposure and finding the most effective way to connect with the folks who buy your type of services.

ABS659
06-04-2004, 04:56 PM
Thanks guys...you are awesome