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12-27-2005, 05:04 PM
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<DIV> style="display: none">,
Because my clients home page is strickly Flash we are using: <div id="SearchEngineText" style="display: none">, this is where we explan the product etc......
Is this a safe idea?
Thanks
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12-27-2005, 06:45 PM
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Hi,
I don't quite understand, are you saying that you want to put keywords in a hidden div so it doesn't mess up your flash layout?
I've never risked playing with the css display:none because I'm paranoid and afraid of being banned. Can't you use the noflash tag instead? If I were forced at gunpoint to do it, then I would put the CSS style in an external template.
Yes, flash isn't the best for seo, the only SE that claims to be able to scan and follow it is Google, and as far as I'm aware they are also the best at detecting CSS "tricks".
There are valid uses of the display:none attribute though, so maybe it would be OK, but I wouldn't risk it on my site without putting up a test page (for at least a month).
Cheers,
Paz.
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12-28-2005, 08:02 AM
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Originally Posted by Paz
Yes, flash isn't the best for seo, the only SE that claims to be able to scan and follow it is Google
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We did an experiment a while back to test that and they weren't able to follow flash links yet (about a year ago). It may have changed though.
In any case, I suggest not hiding text in the ways mentioned. The only time I hide anything is headings where images are used, but never large amounts of body text.
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12-28-2005, 08:51 AM
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Originally Posted by jlknauff
We did an experiment a while back to test that and they weren't able to follow flash links yet (about a year ago). It may have changed though.
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Yea, I remember that one. They're still pretty bad at following the links and if you want to ensure it just use a little js in your action script.
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12-31-2005, 02:48 AM
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I personally use ALL external css and by default I have one hidden h1 tag for use so that I can put a fancier photoshop heading on the page but still have my keyword in h1. Now some do this really fancy with the css, having it display a certain pic, but I just disovered using line-height: 0px; makes it not only invisible but doesn't take up any "invisible" space. I use display: inline; for all my headings so I have to put a <br> tag so it might look like this
h1.seo {
visibility: hidden;
line-height: 0px;
}
Then in the page <h1 class = "seo">Key Phrase</h1><br>
<img src = "images/picture-of-keyphrase.jpg" alt = "keyphrase">
<p />
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12-31-2005, 02:49 AM
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And further note, I might not have been clear, but the css snippet is contained in an external style sheet
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04-09-2006, 05:35 AM
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If you need to use a DIV then display:none, as long as there is a genuine cosmetical or functional reason for using it, then it should be OK. If you are using it for SEO purposes I'd stop straight away. Having said that, even if it is for cosmetical or functional reasons, like PAZ, I too am paranoid of using it so I stay well clear of it.
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04-18-2006, 11:52 AM
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image tag height and width
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Originally Posted by hotwired
I personally use ALL external css ...
<p />
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lol I love that. I think seo guy showed that trick.
Do you find that the image tag height and width are pretty much unnecessary these days?
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