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holidayhavens 09-27-2004 02:51 PM

how long for a PR
 
how long till i get a PR?

site launched mid August and now getting Googlebot results of 1646 + 67

someone said 3 months?
8-|

mobilebadboy 09-27-2004 02:54 PM

No one knows, except Google. And who knows if they even know. Anyone who said 3 months doesn't know.

Jenny Barclay 09-27-2004 03:29 PM

As the last one was June 23, a month later I was waiting with baited breath to see the result of all the link work I had put in. Now ? Who knows? As with everything with G, the two guys who really know aren't saying nuffin'.
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nrlatsha 09-27-2004 05:57 PM

I heard their pigeons died (If you don't know what that means, go here: http://www.google.com/technology/pigeonrank.html)

So they are in a fevered pace trying to get their backup plan working, a monkey with an abacus and a fork.

These are only rumors mind you, but the guy who told me said he heard it from a very reliable source in Nigeria.

smindsrt 09-27-2004 06:34 PM

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Originally Posted by nrlatsha
These are only rumors mind you, but the guy who told me said he heard it from a very reliable source in Nigeria.



You are referring to my new business partner the King? or was it his son?

eitemiller 09-27-2004 06:43 PM

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Originally Posted by nrlatsha
I heard their pigeons died (If you don't know what that means, go here: http://www.google.com/technology/pigeonrank.html)


My boss asked a few times about PR, and I directed her to that page. Still cracks me up.

No one is for sure when, and if, the next PR update will occur.

Thermit 09-27-2004 06:43 PM

Seems like freakin' forever lately.

There is no set schedule, 3 months is a rough predition based on past experiences. But you know what they say... past performance does not predict future performance.

Actually going by historicals, the public PR update is late.

Expect it any day now...

dilligaf 09-27-2004 06:59 PM

IMO, the best possible solution would be BadBoy's update prediction. If it would only happen now, we could get others on with the business at hand.

yukii 09-27-2004 08:23 PM

Pr Update soon
 
The word is out PR update this week :p

dilligaf 09-27-2004 09:57 PM

Quote:
Originally Posted by yukii
The word is out PR update this week :p
Wanna Bet?

nrlatsha 09-27-2004 10:00 PM

Quote:
Originally Posted by yukii
The word is out PR update this week :p


Word? What word? Who's word? You have no rights when it comes to protecting those who told you about a PR update. There are beans, spill em...

nrlatsha 09-27-2004 10:13 PM

Quote:
Originally Posted by smindsrt
You are referring to my new business partner the King? or was it his son?


It was the Prince's cousin's maid's nephew who apparantly works with the King of Zamunda selling Platinum. My offer wasn't very good though, he said if I send him $20 to get the paperwork done, I would get $25 in return. He needs to rethink that strategy... :rolleyes:

smindsrt 09-27-2004 10:17 PM

Quote:
Originally Posted by nrlatsha
It was the Prince's cousin's maid's nephew who apparantly works with the King of Zamunda selling Platinum. My offer wasn't very good though, he said if I send him $20 to get the paperwork done, I would get $25 in return. He needs to rethink that strategy... :rolleyes:


LOL...

Some people are not cut out for business.

eitemiller 09-28-2004 06:51 AM

Quote:
Originally Posted by yukii
The word is out PR update this week :p


Liar liar pants on fire. Besides, if they just did a deep crawl, wouldn't ya think they would update the backlinks first? That's would be a couple of days yet. Unless...they made a big change to the algorythm...hmm....

dilligaf 09-28-2004 09:40 AM

We used to call the bl update the pr update until that stopped. Perhaps it's semantics.

jocelyn 09-28-2004 11:06 AM

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Originally Posted by dilligaf
We used to call the bl update the pr update until that stopped.

Yes, and they were synchronised like lovers. But PR cheated and now BL is all that's left because PR took his stereo and left for a while... oh well...

eitemiller 09-28-2004 11:26 AM

But PR only cheated once she realized that BL wasn't giving her everything she needed. There are thousands of BL's in the ocean, many of which PR hasn't met yet. I say "Go for it".

dilligaf 09-28-2004 11:44 AM

Quote:
Originally Posted by eitemiller
But PR only cheated once she realized that BL wasn't giving her everything she needed. There are thousands of BL's in the ocean, many of which PR hasn't met yet. I say "Go for it".

TFF! If they would only have secured that myrtle beach real estate perhaps it would all be different. (sigh here)

holidayhavens 09-28-2004 12:39 PM

okay
 
i see it was the butler who had google'y eyes with the backlink who took the princess up the Page Rank as she wasnt getting enough of it already. Somebody lost their stereo, most likely the princes cousin while he was surfing on his semantic layer, who also secretly recorded the band to make sure he followed the lyrics and wanted to find out who shouted 'yahoo' during the overture?.

unfortunatley it appeared that someone lost their plot on the way to the store
they lost the backlink, The princess lost her page rank without her feeling a thing.

and they now really live on myrtle beach?

but we cant actually find out where.. so we know when to visit them?

is that how the googlebot works?

:eyes:

guardingthevortex 09-28-2004 08:19 PM

You would think they will shuffle before holiday season, what?

sgSlava 09-29-2004 02:59 PM

Well, actually, it seems that the idea of that PR is constantly changes and toolbar updates only sometimes is true.

1st of September I started a new fresh site. The domain was new and has no PR at all - PR0. I started to exchange links expansively and got about 700 recip link exchange partners by 15th of September. By that time Googlebot started to index my site daily. And all the links that appear on that page are in index the next day. No links to that site from seo-guy forum, in case you want to ask that question :)

I took 60th position on pretty competitive russian word with about 859 000 pages in result. Also it's #1 for query with 7390 competitors. And #14.. wait a sec. No, it's not at #14 anymore, it's #5! with 45000 competor pages. And all that in about 2 weeks - i stopped doing anything later - it was only a experiment.

I have no other explanation of why Google indexes page daily and gets all fresh links in less than 24h, except that the page got high PR. Which means that PR changed in period since 1 Sept and now it's still toolbar PR0. Again leads to what I started with: PR is constantly changes and toolbar updates only sometimes - is true!

Also I can tell you that I've been exchanging links not only with sites that are relevant, but with TOTALLY irrelevant (about 90% of them). My links are so related to my site as elephants to high-mountain skiing.

dilligaf 09-29-2004 04:31 PM

1. "1st of September I started a new fresh site" - "700 recip link exchange partners by 15th of September"
Is this within an established network and if not were the recips confirmed?

2. "I took 60th position on pretty competitive russian word with about 859 000 pages in result. Also it's #1 for query with 7390 competitors. And #14.. wait a sec. No, it's not at #14 anymore, it's #5! with 45000 competor pages. And all that in about 2 weeks - i stopped doing anything later - it was only a experiment."
Is it still there?

sgSlava 09-30-2004 06:10 AM

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Originally Posted by dilligaf
Is this within an established network and if not were the recips confirmed?


Well, here in Russia we have about 3-4 automatic link exchange systems each with 500-1000 sites to exchange. I joined all of them and one SE SPAM system (not sure if it made any good). I can give more info on each of those if needed. It was just my first SEO experiment and wasn't intended to make any money or position. But surely I've learned a lot.

Quote:
Originally Posted by dilligaf
Is it still there?

Currently on #61. Down one position in two weeks :) Also the strangest thing is that site is very low on our local Russian engine Yandex - it's on #440 for the same word and I can't understand why. I have guesses and I think it's easier to trick Google than our s.e. I also think that SPAM pages might have lowered the rank in Yandex. Not sure about Google. Google seems to eat it very well, cause main page of that spammy site is PR4 and they have a lot of subdomains (about 1500 I believe). But it seems to be benefiting only owners. I can update on the situation sometimes.

sgSlava 09-30-2004 06:17 AM

Also a question. Are there in English part of inet any automatic free link exchange systems. Means, you join it, install .php code, then login to system, find some sites in catalogue, ask them to recip, they click "ok" and we both have links on our .php page? (That how our .ru systems work)

sgSlava 09-30-2004 02:40 PM

Situation update: it's currently #18, jumped from #61 in last few hours. What was done? Link to spammy page removed from homepage today morning.

dilligaf 09-30-2004 02:46 PM

egSlava, I don't know of any service for links similar to what you describe but it seems if it's somewhere it's gotta be everywhere. I've just never fooled around with automated link exchanges because I like to have a good look at who I'm linking to.

Would you mind posting or PMing a link to the page and keywords to which you refer. I'd like to look more from the sandboxxing, or lack thereof. aspect.

sgSlava 09-30-2004 02:49 PM

The page and keywords are in Russian. Do you still need link and kw's?

P.S. sgSlava, not egSlave, please.

sgSlava 09-30-2004 02:58 PM

Also, my belief on "sandbox"ing is that either:
a) it's real fast (less than month)
or
b) there is no such thing at all (anyone has a google reference about that there is?)
or
c) big amounts of links dissolves sandbox effect.

bbott 09-30-2004 03:12 PM

Quote:
Originally Posted by sgSlava
Also, my belief on "sandbox"ing is that either:
a) it's real fast (less than month)
or
b) there is no such thing at all (anyone has a google reference about that there is?)
or
c) big amounts of links dissolves sandbox effect.


I'm going to have to disagree with you.

Compare my site www.ewebdevelopment.net with the leading site www.emountaindesign.com for the search term "new jersey web design"

Case closed. :)



Anyways..... On a brighter note... tomorow is OCTOBER 1st.... Think we'll see an update tomorrow ??? :)

dilligaf 09-30-2004 04:23 PM

Quote:
Originally Posted by sgSlava
The page and keywords are in Russian. Do you still need link and kw's?

P.S. sgSlava, not egSlave, please.

If it's showing up on Google.com I'd like to give it a shot. All data is welcome, Thanks

Soz Slava for the typo, No offense intended.

holidayhavens 10-02-2004 01:53 AM

so does anyone know yet?

sgSlava 10-02-2004 02:07 AM

Quote:
Originally Posted by dilligaf
If it's showing up on Google.com I'd like to give it a shot.


So, Diligaf, did you see it?

dilligaf 10-02-2004 05:57 AM

egSlava, I see it at Google.nu but not at all at Google.com. If the rules are the same it might be a good one to watch but I just don't know.

Nice design BTW.


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