Can I get an amen! Tables do stink. CSS is paving the way to easier and cleaner sites and getting better all the time (or is it that I'm learning more about it all the time?).

Tables are nice for what they're intended for (tabular data). For anything else it's rather limiting.. kinda like using frontpage or dreamweaver as opposed to a text editor - easier but fewer options.

This was one of my main reasons for moving to a pure CSS based site. Other than the design and usability improvements, we've cut the code by 1/3.

For example our header used to contain the logo and 4 icons, 4 links all layed out with tables = 67 lines of code. Now, it's 7 lines. No kidding.

And, if the user has a images turned off - or the images are slow to load, they can still navigate our site. That's a huge plus.

yes as said CSS makes your site cleaner as your code is reduced and from SE point your text should be more compared to your code and by using css u can control this..

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I've got to tell you the truth, I find that I like tables better, and making templates that I can use across the board are much easier for me than pure CSS. I do use CSS for some of my sites, though, as it pertains to the text and background color of the pages, as I tend to like to change those colors from time to time. The book I used to learn CSS actually taught that as the best way to go, though it also showed how to create a page purely with CSS; just confused me to no end.

I think it's funny that this thread was revived. There seem to be alot of concerns that have been raised with ie7... I don't know if the original css wasn't validated for the ones experiencing the display issues but there don't seem to be any with the sites that were designed in tables.

I resemble that remark! :p

I haven't yet found a reason to use CSS. Tables work fine for me for now. Perhaps in the future I'll need to change but not today.

well discussion on this trend! so its ideal to make CSS codes than HTML codes? what i mean is much more preferred CSS much oky?

lol!! Sorry, thats funniest typo I've seen for a while!

It made me remember an occassion that had me in hysterics. My good lady works as a beauty consultant in a department store, and one Saturday afternoon, someone asked her where they could find the caving sh*ts. lol!! I'm told she frequently gets asked for an excruciating scrub - which after picking myself up off the floor I assumed was something similar to an exfoliating scrub. rofl!!

Ahhh... I do enjoy the honest mistakes! :)