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11-15-2004, 12:52 PM
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If taking the press releases seriously - it's supposed to be on Q1
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11-16-2004, 09:45 PM
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Originally Posted by skattabrain
i don't call that stupid, the results should point to an exact page versus root URL. I'm liking MSN because it's clearly not an inbound link #'s race.
it's about the content i think.
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The problem is that the homepage is optimized (On page & off) for that keyword and the other page is not.
Well anyway for my main KW I'm up to the #2 spot now. About a week ago I was in the middle of the 2nd page. I'm really liking the results now, watch out number one here I come!
I also noticed that SEO Guy is up at #1 for SEO when I did a search last week he was on the 2nd page as well.
MSN must have tweaked something.
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11-19-2004, 07:51 AM
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11-19-2004, 09:12 AM
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In the past week or so the results have started to get better for the phrases I watch -- I'm not sure yet what kind of algo tweak was involved, but I could live with it should it go live now. Granted, I'd like some better listings, but at least it is now relevent...more than I can say for Yahoo right now.
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11-19-2004, 01:37 PM
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I'm finding that all the sites I've been optimizing and developing backlink campaigns for are showing in the top ten. this makes me happy, as most of them are still in the sandbox on Googlet.
Basically anything I have a good "allinanchor" serp shows up almost in the same position on the msn beta.
Also...MSNdude has been posting on Webmasterworld.com. Didn't have time to read through the whole thread though.
http://www.webmasterworld.com/forum97/229.htm
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11-20-2004, 06:51 PM
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All my sites are top ten and better......
They must be counting each individual link and not filtering out similar inbound from same ip, sitewides, and off theame...
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11-23-2004, 11:21 AM
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All the phrases that i have been targeting over the last few months are now showing top ten on new msn, with many (in fact most) showing no1. I cannot believe my eyes. There i am seo like crazy for google and hardly making a dent and then i check msn and i'm no 1s everywhere. And i have even been appearing in the top ten for the most competitive phrase that i though I would never compete with.
With Yahoo I also have good rankngs (not like this though) and google. Well who knows whats going on. It definitely appears that google is reducing the value of my new links because I out compete all the other sites. But i just wait for my site to age in google and it should come good.
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11-24-2004, 03:42 AM
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I've been saying since the first beta that the serps would change a great deal, and not to get too excited, you can expect those to change again as well. The way things are going is exactly as i predicted all those months ago, seems that the systems design I have is proving accurate.
The seo efforts have marred search results for ages now, and its become a complete pest to search result providers, as if the results are manipulated, then they lose credibility from the public users. This will of course eventually come to an end. There are many ways to cut out manipulation, I discussed these in previous posts.
Stay tuned and keep your eyes and minds open - and trust me I'm a software developper in search
just a little joke: You know what they say about a software engineer holding a blow torch??? Run for your life!
(when I say seo in my sig, I don't mean it in the way you do! - and please lets not get nasty about this, totally understand that everyone has to earn a living and have nothing against it)
Last edited by xan : 11-24-2004 at 03:46 AM.
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11-29-2004, 01:39 PM
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It looks like it is currently redirecting to the older MSN...perhaps an update is occuring behind the scenes (as of the last 5 minutes).
Nevermind. It was very short-lived...just a glitch.
Last edited by Cygnus : 11-29-2004 at 01:42 PM.
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