02-14-2005, 03:39 PM
Google update discussion
Hey guys I thought I would try to get some Google update discussion going as many of you have expressed concerns with sudden drops of your websites positions, allinanchor scores etc.
A few observations on this update:
• Websites seem to have been “randomly” hit with a filter that completely drops them wayyyyy down in the serps, in fact they are not able to rank for even their own domain name or business name (Which is often obscure and has little competition. – These sites are not banned as they still appear in the serps just somewhere form 100th-10,000th place.
• Allinanchor drops: Many sites are finding that their allinachor: score is gone completely. Although they know they are top 10 and show many more links then every other site, their allinanchor is just non existent. Is this a penalty or an algo fudge up?
• Inconsistency: We do the same optimization techniques for every site. We have sites still on the first page for tons of competitive terms including “online pharmacy” “logo design” “Minneapolis real estate” just to name a few – Yet some sites that were not even quite as competitive get dropped right out of the serps “sales management software” “phoenix real estate” “real estate forum” to name a few that dropped to nowhere. It is interesting as all our sites as I said have the same SEO, so there is marked inconsistency even between sites in similar industries. 9 of our real estate sites rank first page, 1 was dropped go figure.
• Difference from other engines: ALL of our websites are currently first page for their top keywords in both MSN and Yahoo. We don’t spam, just apply natural SEO techniques, so Google why are you dropping the ball so badly here?
Our clients are typically not hosted on the same web hosts (They come to us individually) and are certainly not on the same IP
We never interlink non related websites and typically don’t link clients together at all. (With the exception of real estate clients which just makes sense and it is only 1 link on the resources page)
We buy sponsored links for less then 5% of our clients and if ever, only at their request (None of our clients with sponsored links dropped this update)
There is no cloaking, redirects, doorway pages or anything else even remotely associated with the word spam. So why are sites dropping?
Please Share your experiences – observations, are you still up there, or did you drop. If you are up there still, what are your tactics, if you have dropped (Same question)
So far all I have read is people saying that this Google update is a screw up and that we should wait until Google figures out what they did wrong and fix it (Which is all good and wonderful) but we should take this time to really evaluate practices and make sure we are on the right track, even if Google is not
Vote for your favorite SEO site and tell your visitors about this great place, please link to us http://www.seo-guy.com with the anchor text SEO and let them know how you feel