I’ve been trying to get some pages listed for quite some time now and have followed advice from this and other SEO forums.

I’m having problems getting my pages listed correctly in Google I’ll use the village of Flowton in Suffork England as an example,
as you can see below I have the keywords/phrase Flowton Suffork England in my URL Title Description Keywords and Content.


So if I search in Google for “Flowton Suffolk England” this first page

1. www.1881-census.co.uk/england/suffolk.html
doesn’t mention Flowton in its url title or description it mentions it twice on the page

2. http://www.1861-census.co.uk/england/suffolk.html
again doesn’t mention Flowton in its url title or description it mentions it twice on the page

3. http://www.sundials.co.uk/~suffolk.htm
again doesn’t mention Flowton in its url title or description it mentions it twice on the page

4. http://www.timperley.org/families/FAM0005.HTM
These are not Flowton websites

5. http://homepages.ihug.co.nz/~fiski/ft_atf/index3.htm

6. http://dotukdirectory.co.uk/d10202-9.html
This does mention Flowton in a link to a page that is Flowton related.

If I search for “Flowton Suffolk” I get this page:

1. http://www.suffolkchurches.co.uk/flowton.html
got Flowton in its url and title and throughout its page

2. http://www.geograph.org.uk/photo/250166
This only has Flowton in its title and mentions it on a page and alt text

3. http://www.nestoria.co.uk/flowton/property/buy
This has Flowton in its title and description and is mentioned on the page mostly “Unfortunately we found no properties <insert village here>”

4. http://www.thelink.freeuk.com/August2004.htm
this has Flowton in its description and is a flowton related page

5. users.ox.ac.uk/~peter/workhouse/Samford/Samford1881.html
Not found

6. http://www.192.com/directory.cfm/IPSWICH/FARM
Doesn’t mention Flowton in title description or content I have no idea why this is listed

7. http://www.flowtonopengardens.co.uk/
mentions flowton in url (joined) and title and content

Okay lets just search for “Flowton”

1. http://www.suffolkchurches.co.uk/flowton.html
got Flowton in its url and title and throughout its page

2. http://www.stedmundsbury.anglican.o...ch&SHOWIMAGE=NO
Mentions Flowton in content only

3. http://www.thelink.freeuk.com/August2004.htm
this has Flowton in its description and is a flowton related page

4. http://www.flowton-dials.co.uk/
404 not found

5. http://www.geograph.org.uk/photo/250166
This only has Flowton in its title and mentions it on a page and alt text

6. http://www.touchlocal.com/nat/t-9301-Flowton
mentions Flowton in title description and has 100’s of Flowton links in this directory thing

7. http://www.stained-windows.co.uk/ManorHouse.htm
No mention in url title or description – mentions Flowton in content once

Most of these sites serve little or no purpose for the village of Flowton, a couple have some static content about the village but the rest don’t.
As far as SEO goes you guys would have a field day if one appeared on the Website critique.

My site may not be perfect as far as SEO goes but I’ve taken your advice and done some SEO work I’ve even submitted a Google Sitemap these are my entries for Flowton


The page is linked internally from these nearby village pages
Belstead - Suffolk
Bramford - Suffolk
Burstall - Suffolk
Chattisham - Suffolk
Copdock - Suffolk
Hintlesham - Suffolk
Little-Blakenham - Suffolk
Nettlestead - Suffolk
Offton - Suffolk
Somersham - Suffolk
Sproughton - Suffolk
Willisham – Suffolk

My pages are nowhere to be found I tried the first 35 result pages or so.

Why is my page not listed ?
Can someone tell me what else I can do to get listed?

I’m beginning to wonder if SEO isn’t just a load of old rubbish, it would seem so based on my search results.

Thanks
Roy

only having your keywords in title and description won't help you to rank in serps you need to acquire quality links pointing to your site too..

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Hi Kate My keywords are NOT only in my title and description they're also throughout my content and surrounding pages Thats what I'm saying Kate WHY? these other sites dont have that and they're ranked high in serps. Therefore by definition not having backlinks can't be my problem.

do you mean these sites don't have back links or your sites needs to build backlinks..

your sites seems to have 2 backlinks in google.. I can't say there must be something more to this thing..

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the other sites WILL have backward links to there site. Search Yahoo (Not Google) for backlinks using: linkdomain:site.com

You will see that they do indeed have backlinks.

Its not just about the number of backlinks a site has either but a lot of other factors. Namely is that site is related to a similar topic and how much "weight" that site has.

Bear in mind it can take many month for a new site to trickle into the SERPs unless you really know what you are doing and have a decent budget behind you.

Hi Guys,

see who's at number 1 in Google for the search "miserable failure" and your won't find that keyword on the page and probably anywhere on the site.

It got their on links alone after a politically motivated backlink campaign to get the man ranking for that keyword phrase.

Sure having your keyword phrase sprinkled throughout the site is important, but backlinks alone did it here. I think if you cautiously get a handful of relevant links for you keyword phrases, you'll rank for that term.

Cheers,
Paz.

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nomax5... argue all you want, BUT the only way to place high in the SERPs is through your content and backlinks. Your onpage, in the eyes of Google, matters little except for relevance to a keyword(s). G primarily matches: content > keyword > keyword search > backlink relevance to keyword searched > SERP rankings > presentation of SERP.

No or insufficient relevant backlinks = poor SERP performance.

As stated, argue all you want, but it you want to change the above... call Google and ask them to do it your way.

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After some research it seems all or most of my villages pages are supplementary pages so they're not listed correctly in google. backlinks are king I know but its hard getting backlinks for thousands of pages, I can't submit each one to a directory. but I'm working on it and I think backlinks to each one would solve the problem.

I'm going to research how they got backlinks there must be a trick to it. they dynamically load a page from a data base then manage to get a backlink for each one.

Nomax5 - I'm going to assume your site is fairly new (less than 6 months old) and that your very much a motivated "go get" type person? I say this, only because what your saying is very familiar...most SEO's have heard it many many times. new sites rarely rank well - period. it takes time to develop back links, trust, and credibility. Older sites, although not all, stand a better chance of ranking well than new sites for lots of reasons, including quite simply their longevity. It doesn't mean there's any "trick", or any way to short circuit the system, as it were.

Now, looking at your <title> tag at www.folksin.com, ...it's complete nonsense.
It's just a series of disconnected words. That probably your first mistake. Try to make it natural language if you can. Same with your meta description.

Now, as I look at some of the pages on the site, I have to ask myself - if I was a search engine, would I be likely to think this page is most relevant for a given search than any other....? And I have to say, I can't think of any search that any of these pages are particularly relevant too. They all talk about lots of different subjects - and many pages actually haver no real content at all.

I think you have a lot of work to do before you dismiss link building. hehe

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