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09-09-2004, 08:32 AM
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1p.com is traffic power first place spammers
This morning I received a call from a company who called themselves 1P, First Place. However, my called ID showed Traffic Power. I questioned the sales person and he said they had changed name to 1P. Beware of 1P First Place, for they are Traffic Power under a new name.
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09-09-2004, 09:06 AM
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Thank you for the update corey, Traffic Power (Now 1p "first place") have destroyed countless online business with their 100% spam practices, if you are a person considering either traffic power or 1p.com "first place" take heed of this warning they will take your $ and destroy your website. I have no fear of reprisal from Traffic Power or 1p as they are the same people and I speak the truth. They will make some lame statement like I am just a competitor and I am slandering them because I want your business, when in actuality I dont even compete in the same realm as these scum so there is no competition to be had.
Take mine and many others advice, dont touch 1p.com or traffic power, or first place or anyone else for that matter who uses pushy sales tactics, calls YOU on the phone, emails you out of the blue, or cant rank their own website
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09-09-2004, 09:31 AM
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Also they will say there not in Google because it's a Google Problem. WRONG - There not in Google because of what SEO Guy above said.
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09-09-2004, 09:57 AM
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Originally Posted by coreycollins
This morning I received a call from a company who called themselves 1P, First Place. However, my called ID showed Traffic Power. I questioned the sales person and he said they had changed name to 1P. Beware of 1P First Place, for they are Traffic Power under a new name.
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Its also a good sign when the SEO company is cold-calling customers and has to change their name...
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09-09-2004, 10:46 AM
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They aren't the first cold-calling SEO company that has changed names. *cough* iCrossing (aka International Crossing aka Traffic Results) -- some name changes are simply to keep up with changing times...and then there is 1p first place.
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10-01-2004, 09:38 AM
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Traffic-Power Victim
I recently was taken by Traffic-Power. Their pitch sounded like they would be optimizing a page(s) for our site, creating a link campaign, etc. They threw together a site under a different url to our suprise. The spelling wasn't even correct. I believe they are cloaking. Last check I couldn't even get to the new site they created, url not found. Question is can their practice hurt our site?
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10-01-2004, 11:38 AM
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If they duplicated your content under this new domain and got it ranking better than the original, then you could potentially be hit with a duplicated content penalty -- if it happens, contact Google and explain the situation.
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10-01-2004, 12:35 PM
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Content Duplicated
Yes, it is partially duplicated but probably changed enough to not be the case. How would you know if you are penalized? We already rank lousy.
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10-01-2004, 01:48 PM
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Originally Posted by Robert Cochran
We already rank lousy.
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Hmm...even lousier than before? If it isn't too big of a pain you could modify your content to be even more different -- look at a lot of the posts around on this site and you'll get some good ideas on how to improve your rank without having to go through a 3rd party SEO firm (or at the very least, you'll find a better one).
Also, if their contract doesn't say specifically that your content would duplicated and then never returned to you, you do have copyright protection rights and can also contact Google regarding the DMCA.
Best of luck!
Cygnus
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10-01-2004, 02:14 PM
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Traffic-Power Scheme
Actually they lead you to beleive they are going to optimize YOUR site. Then they create a new site similar (but different) optimized for 20 keywords. Their site gets spidered and the surfer ends up on their site requiring them to click through the "INTRO" to get to your real site. Their sales tactics are very tricky. We've requested a refund and they promptly responded with the following e-mail:
Our company is growing, and as we grow are products and services grow as well.
We have now made the transition to diversify ourselves, our company, and our products. All active traffic-power clients will receive our promotional site format for the remainder of your contracted promotion or extended time indicated in individual agreements with VIP customers.
To create a promotional site, we register a new domain based on your keywords and upload the promotional site with the Traffic-Power.com code. If someone finds the promotional site directly or through an attraction page they can reach your original site once they click on the link on the promotional site. ALL clients are being given this new code on a promotional site regardless of promotion start date; it does not cost anything for these changes. The reason for the change is because of problems we have been experiencing with our code being removed or altered inadvertently by those who need to make regular changes to their homepage. Because of these problems it causes delays in placements and in some cases drops people from search engines all together because the code will be missing for a long period of time without our or our clients knowledge. Also, this eliminates the need for our technicians to have FTP access to sites who have security issues.
All active clients have been extended for 12 week period to create, obtain, design, and upload this new format for search engine optimization.
On behalf of 1st Placement, let me apologize for the delays with current traffic-power promotional campaign. I can assure you the problems that have hindered us thus far, have been addressed and will be rectified once your promotional site is working properly. Once the new promotional site is indexed, we will live up to the agreed upon stipulations in your contract with our company.
As a courtesy for your inconvenience, I will extended your promotion for an additional 3 months at no cost to you, defer the balance of your payment for 4 months, and make your status VIP for new promotional sites being created and implemented at this time.
Your promotion will be scheduled to run until 11/12/2005
Unfortunately, due to the nature of search engine optimization, constant fluctuation in guidelines by the search engines in general, and as stated in your contract, our company policy is not to issue refunds to active clients and cancellation of your promotion will not entitle you to a refund . We guarantee 8 to 10 top ten placements for any of your keywords, in any of the search engines we optimize your keywords for or we will promote your keywords for free until said guarantees are met.
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