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Old 01-22-2005, 07:11 PM
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Is there a limit on anchor text?

Can you get penalized for too many inbound text links that have the same anchor text? How does the sand box effect play in this kind of scenario?
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Old 01-22-2005, 07:31 PM
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Many things to consider here.

There is the time for links to be worth something of course. If links come from the same few sites, like 100 on 10 sites, they may not help as much as if there was one on a 1000 sites. I can't say yes or no to this, but I just play safe and use more than just one anchor.
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Old 01-22-2005, 07:37 PM
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Well, you're probably looking for an answer... there's been wide spread speculation about having too much anchor text all the same. A Google dude intimated that it could be a factor according to Webby's report from a conference in London (I think it was London) a few months ago.

Although I've never seen any data it would seem good practice to mix it up a bit. I liked what Clasione said on REWebmasters... when mixxing it up include different KW's or the domain etc so you still benefit from the anchor text.

If you've got each page optimized for a couple of phrases it's very easy to do, it appears more natural to SE's and the terms compliment each other.
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whats this sandbox thing ive seen it around alot now
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Old 01-23-2005, 05:28 PM
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whats this sandbox thing ive seen it around alot now

When you get links, they are not worth much for a while. This is why a new site will often have a hard time ranking for a while, no established links.
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ooh i see lol
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IMHO there isn't any penalty for anchor text using the exact same words.

Think about it:

It would make marketing a nightmare! How would huge websites, like HP.com,
that have gazillions of incoming links, survive? Are they penalized?
I think not.

Why in the world would there be a penalty?

In the example quoted above:
If a visitor clicks on a link that says HP.com and he arrives at HP.com...what's the
problem? The visitor is happy, the SE's are happy..everybody concerned is happy!
Isn't relevance the ultimate name of the game?

The theory that using the same key phrase will penalize your website, doesn't
hold water or logic, for that matter.
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When you get links, they are not worth much for a while. This is why a new site will often have a hard time ranking for a while, no established links.


OK, what time it will take for a site to show-up as its allinanchor shows now?

according to socengine.com/seo/tools it says...

"Very light sandbox factors may affect site - manually review competition and search results"

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Old 01-30-2005, 08:02 AM
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Sorry for this dobule post

My site is climbing very fast on allinanchor:keywords it is now 9
for allintitle:keywords : 7

I am not doing any SEO work.
I am desperate to know when it will be reality.

As I hope people hear having nice experience with different kind of sites, so please tell me what I should do now, is there some trick or I need to wait.
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Why in the world would there be a penalty?


When people voluntary link to a site, there are many, many, many different anchortext phrases used. Some use hp others www hp.com or hp.com, computers, printers or any other more appropriate name and alot of volunary links go to pages deeper in the site as well.

If a site has all links coming to the home page with all the same text, it cannot mean anything else but somebody is requesting links and doing SEO stuff to it. Searchengines don't like that, they do not want somebody to artificially influence their searchresults.

The whole point of links playing a major part in the searchresults is based on voluntary linking. If somebody links to a site, it must mean it is somewhat important and to rate that page searchengines use anchortext. If the anchortext is all the same and pointing to the same page, it CANNOT be from voluntary/natural linking.

Hence it is more than likely that searchengines punish/filter/devaluate those links and therefore affect your rankings negatively as well.
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