The one site I have done that is #1 in Google for a key phrase, when I add the string it drops the site to #3.
Site I did that is #1 w/out the string
registered 1999
DMOZ - 2 Listings
MSN - #3 (for the key phrase)
Yahoo - #12 (for the key phrase)
Yahoo Directory - none
links - 3040

Site #1 when string is added
Registered June 2004
No DMOZ listings
Yahoo #27
Yahoo Directory - none
MSN # 5
links - 586

Site #2 when string is added (this site is also #3 w/out the string)
reg domain Sept 2001
Dmoz - 1 listing
Yahoo #5
Yahoo Directory - none
MSN #7
Links 2030

Does anybody know what the -dsfsdf tag filter is it is killing my rankings. asumeing that every -***** is a filter.

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Does the -*** parameter can be any forms combination of characters?
Must I use -sdfsdfq?

From what i can tell I can delete some of the -????? and still rank good. But I searched with just one filter and still am in the top 10 -dsfsdf. I rank #1 with all the filters off but this one seams to me the bigest hold back for me

Rigth hand drive jeeps -dsfsdf
returns around #11

si I thank that every -????? is a different filter. I wish we could find out what the filters are for every -?????? are. Then we could come up with an action plan.

Just my two cents. could be wrong

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Hello forum member

i am a newbie in the terms of SEO but like to learn quick and read already a longtime in this forum.

i read this thread and found the link to the sandbox detection tool. and tried also the -***** filter in Google

the facts are:
my search phrase has by google 19.000.000 entries
and i rank on place 219

with the -***** Filter i rank on 19.500.000 entries
i rank on place 7

in the G***gle Sandbox detection tool
it says:

i am with 50.1-60% Moderate Sandbox Factors may be at work - try additional terms

Google - Not in Top 100
Google - allinanchor 11
Google - allintitle 11
Google - allintext 12
Yahoo! 18
MSN (Beta) 16
Teoma Not in Top 100

Does this mean i have over optimized my site ???

How i can turn this in the contrary.

Thank you.

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prescottseo.net
Site went live: Nov 2004
SEO work done: Nov 2004
Incoming links: Google/AOL 88, Yahoo 315, AllTheWeb 310, AltaVista 315, MSN Beta 1056, HotBot/Inktomi 47 and Lycos 43 links.

First keyword phrase "Arizona SEO"
Rank without filter = #16 (346,000 results)
Rank with filter = #1
Allinanchor = #1
Allintitle = #1
MSN = #1
Y = #8
Sandbox Detection Score: 38.52
Second keyword phrase "SEO Services"
Rank without filter = not in top 1,000 (4.1 million results)
Rank with filter = #6
Allinanchor = #7
Allintitle = #5
MSN = #8
Y = Not in Top 100
Sandbox Detection Score: 38.52

prescottcity.com
Site went live: Jan 2000
SEO work done: Nov 2004
Incoming Links: Google/AOL 75, Yahoo 403, AllTheWeb 386, AltaVista 410, MSN Beta 589, HotBot/Inktomi 64 and Lycos 55 links.

First keyword phrase "Prescott"
Rank without filter = #38 (5.6 million results)
Rank with filter = #38
Allinanchor = #38
Allintitle = #37
MSN = #9
Y = Not in Top 100
Sandbox Detection Score: 4.24
Second keyword phrase "Prescott Arizona"
Rank without filter = not in top 1,000 (1.5 million results)
Rank with filter = #3
Allinanchor = #8
Allintitle = #9
MSN = #1
Y = Not in Top 100
Sandbox Detection Score: 52.72

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Thank you - eitemiller

thats was the reason i asking in this thread.
I am not sure where is the border between a good optimization and over optimization.

Is this the only reason to come in the sandbox?

my backlinks are checked and i think i have good Bls to my site.

I am on the way to make a decision - to leave the site like it is or to look over it again.

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Hi there guys and girls

Could someone please tell me what tools is used for sandbox detection or to find out what is your sandbox detection score. If your score is a certain percentage do you then consider your site sandboxed?

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