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Nah better not name him pm me if you want (whist converting 6G to uk pounds, lol)
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what's the conversion AUD/USD?
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6000 aud is about 4750 usd. Very high for on-page only for 5 pages.
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It's a bit high...but not much really
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I just put some packages together:
http://www.sandiegowebdesigns.com/s...lans/index.html

If I don't think the site would be worth my time to fit into this price structure, I don't take on the client, or I explain to them it would ned to be a custom package.
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Old 02-28-2005, 05:46 PM
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I thought the rates are expensive too. lol.
i wonder how they managed to convince the client!!
must have bullshitted their way thru.
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Broad success as measured how...

The difficulty with gaurantees is that they need to be quantifiable, else they are pointless. I can gaurentee that I'll do work for the client...but that's obvious; will there be broad success? More than likely. However, adding the gaurantee phrase anywhere in a contract is a legal liability; I would advise otherwise. Eventually you'll have a period where a site, despite your best efforts, does not rank in the big three. There are a variety of reasons why this could happen over a 30-90 day period (spidering difficulty, hosting problems, algorithm glitches, improper links, links becoming improper without your knowledge, etc) -- what happens to the gaurantee then. Most SEO firms and SEOs that have been around awhile learned the hard way to never give a gaurantee

It is alot like leaving your car door unlocked...it may be safe, but why take the risk?

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Just curious as to what you could do or promise to a client to ensure that they can trust that the money they spend on your services will be a good investment?
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Unfortunately, this is a business built on trust and understanding. A few of my clients are willing to vouch on my behalf regarding both ability and ethics -- let's say I have someone ask me to optimize and providing training on link exchanges, with the intention of ranking for some product or service. I inform the prospective client how I go about my work, provide the references (whom also consent to me showing off a few rankings), and sit back and wait. I've been in a SEO sales position before and did not care for it much...I have yet to actively seek clients; people have sought me out, so it isn't so much of a sale as it is an educational venture complete with hourly pricing.

When asked about the investment questions, I pull out the MBA and can point to a variety of metrics they can measure the success of the program -- no strategy is ever contingent solely upon naturl search results, though that usually is the main focus...intelligent clients understand issues dealing with 3rd parties and know that I do everything in my power to ensure they get the most bang for their buck.

Hopefully that more or less answers the question agent gazelle. Just be careful never to give a gaurantee, in the event something catostophic occurs -- it is impossible to have a perfect record on the natural search (which is also another great reason to offer a variety of SEM abilities).

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That does answer my question. I was going to put together a promis for anyone wishing to employ my services, but I realise that I don't control the SEs. Without promising top placement in the SEs I guess I can only promise that I will use optimizing methods that have brought success to me as I have worked on other sites.
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And that's really all you can do. It does help if you are up to date on all the CPC stuff too, as well as good sponsored links/banners, e-mail marketing, and anything else that you can fit into your bag o' tricks.

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