SEO | Link Popularity | Search Engine Consulting | SEO Tutorial | SEO Tools | SEO Forum
Reply
 
Thread Tools Search this Thread Rate Thread Display Modes
  #1  
Old 02-20-2006, 04:32 PM
dilligaf's Avatar
dilligaf dilligaf is offline
SEO GUY Moderator
 
Join Date: May 2004
Location: Tampa Bay
Posts: 2,872 dilligaf has a spectacular aura aboutdilligaf has a spectacular aura about
Passing PR | Google Guy | Site-Sift

Google has demonstrated it's exceptional logic with what they're doing with purchased links IMO. By getting the word out that "certain sites" may not pass pr and that there is no indication of the fact in the site itself, other than it's known to Google as a link seller. The selling site doesn't drop in the rankings or lose PR... you kinda just have to take your chances.

The only way to really know is to test it... and that's just absolutely nuts when you consider that pr updates have been quarterly until lately. You'd have to wait three months to see if anything was going on with pr and it would have to be a virgin site... no links pointed there whatsoever.

As an illustration, one of our members (Smindsrt) has a very prominant directory (Site-Sift) and when talking with Joc we decided to test it. The link was posted about a month ago to a virgin site and it now has a pr4 from the one link in the directory.

It proves two things to me...
1. Site Sift gives good pr (smiley here)
2. Google's got it, many seo's are changing their habits voluntarily or out of fear. The Google Guy on WMW and Cutt's blog are pure ginius IMO.

Reply here and I'll pm the url of the virgin site if you're interested. I just don't want anyone linking to it.
__________________
OverSite - A unique web directory for quality sites ONLY.
Reply With Quote
  #2  
Old 02-20-2006, 04:42 PM
wrockca's Avatar
wrockca wrockca is offline
SEO GUY Moderator
 
Join Date: Jul 2004
Location: Kansas City, MO
Posts: 433 wrockca is on a distinguished road
Send a message via MSN to wrockca
Quote:
many seo's are changing their habits voluntarily or out of fear


Very Good Point... I aggree.
__________________
Please do not take my word for fact, its only my opinions and you really need to research more before you make major changes.
Peace of mind for your online marketing.

BCC Enterprises Merchant Solutions | Fishing Tackle Reviews
Reply With Quote
  #3  
Old 02-20-2006, 05:28 PM
ltcobretti's Avatar
ltcobretti ltcobretti is offline
SEO
 
Join Date: Feb 2005
Posts: 155 ltcobretti is on a distinguished road
They have clearly blocked some of the largest pages selling links...a lot of people are being burned...at least we should be able to buy links for what the traffic is worth again...it will be awhile though...
__________________
Buy Snow Blowers cheap in the off-season! Now spring is here, so it's time to buy a Lawn Mower !
Reply With Quote
  #4  
Old 02-20-2006, 05:51 PM
jocelyn's Avatar
jocelyn jocelyn is offline
Moderator
 
Join Date: Mar 2004
Location: Montréal / Canada
Posts: 5,101 jocelyn has a spectacular aura aboutjocelyn has a spectacular aura aboutjocelyn has a spectacular aura about
Well, seeing backlinks from site-sift was a good indication that it was being noted and counted... but as far as the link: command goes, most know what I think of it. The PR test was an other way to see if the directory had any kickdown of somekind. Maybe because the directory is not selling sitewides helps...
__________________
Weblist -|- Easy salad recipes
Reply With Quote
  #5  
Old 02-20-2006, 07:31 PM
sparrowhawk's Avatar
sparrowhawk sparrowhawk is offline
SEO Junior and a half
 
Join Date: Feb 2006
Location: NH (US)
Posts: 44 sparrowhawk is on a distinguished road
How do you think Google is identifying sites as potential "link sellers" who should be using the nofollow attribute?

Are they using an algorhithm to identify sites and applying a devaluation of links from those sites automatically? Or do you think that they identify potential sites with an algo and then manually have a human check out the sites to confirm/deny?

If it's the former has anyone run any tests to determine how the algo discovers link sellers and brokers?
Reply With Quote
  #6  
Old 02-21-2006, 03:06 AM
dilligaf's Avatar
dilligaf dilligaf is offline
SEO GUY Moderator
 
Join Date: May 2004
Location: Tampa Bay
Posts: 2,872 dilligaf has a spectacular aura aboutdilligaf has a spectacular aura about
That's the issue isn't it? Without knowing who's getting tagged or how extensive it is, it's rather a shot in the dark. There's really know way to know for sure without testing it individually.
__________________
OverSite - A unique web directory for quality sites ONLY.
Reply With Quote
  #7  
Old 02-24-2006, 04:30 AM
nkernick nkernick is offline
SEO Almost
 
Join Date: Feb 2004
Posts: 116 nkernick is on a distinguished road
Whats the difference between selling links !!! and and charging for banners on your site..????

Not literally but actually the two are the same !!!!
Gain money for site exposure , Im sure msn, Yahoo and Google Do this?
__________________
Nick
Mortgage Leads at Sterling Knight
Reply With Quote
  #8  
Old 02-24-2006, 10:40 AM
ltcobretti's Avatar
ltcobretti ltcobretti is offline
SEO
 
Join Date: Feb 2005
Posts: 155 ltcobretti is on a distinguished road
They identify sites selling links for PR only manually. I am nearly positive on this. PM me if you want to see why.
__________________
Buy Snow Blowers cheap in the off-season! Now spring is here, so it's time to buy a Lawn Mower !
Reply With Quote
  #9  
Old 02-24-2006, 11:19 AM
dilligaf's Avatar
dilligaf dilligaf is offline
SEO GUY Moderator
 
Join Date: May 2004
Location: Tampa Bay
Posts: 2,872 dilligaf has a spectacular aura aboutdilligaf has a spectacular aura about
Quote:
Originally Posted by ltcobretti
They identify sites selling links for PR only manually. I am nearly positive on this. PM me if you want to see why.

I'll bite (my best impersonation of SEO AM), PM sent.
__________________
OverSite - A unique web directory for quality sites ONLY.
Reply With Quote
  #10  
Old 02-24-2006, 12:39 PM
wrockca's Avatar
wrockca wrockca is offline
SEO GUY Moderator
 
Join Date: Jul 2004
Location: Kansas City, MO
Posts: 433 wrockca is on a distinguished road
Send a message via MSN to wrockca
Im in... Thx
__________________
Please do not take my word for fact, its only my opinions and you really need to research more before you make major changes.
Peace of mind for your online marketing.

BCC Enterprises Merchant Solutions | Fishing Tackle Reviews
Reply With Quote
Reply


Thread Tools Search this Thread
Search this Thread:

Advanced Search
Display Modes Rate This Thread
Rate This Thread:

Posting Rules
You may not post new threads
You may not post replies
You may not post attachments
You may not edit your posts

vB code is On
Smilies are On
[IMG] code is On
HTML code is Off
Forum Jump


Login/Register
User Name
Password
Remember Me?

Forum Links
Forum Home
SEO Forum
Internet Marketing Forum
Web Design Forum
Web Hosting Forum
Programming Forum
SEO Chat

Quick Links
Forum Home
New Posts
Mark Forums Read
Open Buddy List
User Control Panel
Edit Avatar
Edit Profile
Edit Options
Miscellaneous
Subscribed Threads
My Profile

Search Forums

Advanced Search
All times are GMT -8. The time now is 03:51 PM.


Powered by: vBulletin Version 3.0.3
Copyright ©2000 - 2010, Jelsoft Enterprises Ltd.