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08-10-2004, 09:38 PM
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HTML tables
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08-12-2004, 12:48 PM
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Use CSS instead of tables ... this is what I'm after now 
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08-12-2004, 08:17 PM
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hmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmm
how would u achieve the above using CSS ??
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08-12-2004, 11:28 PM
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Originally Posted by amitbhawnani
hmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmm
how would u achieve the above using CSS ??
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With half as much code, no "invisible 1x1 gif" (  ), and an awful lot less faffing and hacking
I have done similar on my current project:
http://beta.service6.org.uk
If you view source you will see that there is some nav and titles etc, above the content, but that was a consious usability/acsessibility decision. I could move all of that to the bottom with no problems at all. And the main bulk of the navigation sits at the bottom of the page.
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08-13-2004, 12:07 AM
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hmmmmmmmmmmm
pretty good !
thanks for the info
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08-15-2004, 10:53 AM
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You can always use tables, if you are wise you will use css to fine-tune them.
At some point, tables will display better in most browsers than divs do.
But, if instead of tables you use div's your code will be a lot cleaner. And this is not about SEO, this is about making your site faster to your visitors 
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08-15-2004, 11:38 PM
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Originally Posted by eduardomaio
At some point, tables will display better in most browsers than divs do.
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I think you were looking for the past tense there buddy, "At some point" was a few years ago, when IE4 was the norm 
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08-16-2004, 02:47 AM
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If you use div's with borders, margins and paddings and if you open your website in Internet Explorer, Opera, Netscape and Firefox you will see how the Gecko ones will mess up a little your numbers 
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08-16-2004, 10:15 AM
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well if you use a proper full doctype, gecko Opera and IE6 all display the same, and display correctly. It's only IE5.x that messes up the box model padding, and that can be easilly worked around. So it's only old browsers that cause the problems with padding/borders and we are still back to IE4 before any major problems.
Try again
edit, just realised I have examples of what I was saying above so I might as well prove my point:
Using both padding and borders (there are no issues with margins) Working on all modern/major browsers, but not IE5.x. This eg demonstrates the broken box model of IE5:
http://www.caffeinefuelled.net/examples/01/05.htm
working on IE5.x, using the tantec celic box model, a simple workaround solves all your IE5 woes:
http://www.caffeinefuelled.net/examples/02/01.htm
My final word. Yes, if you don't know what you are doing, then CSS is likely to cause you problems. If you don't know how to use a chainsaw, you are likely to lose an arm, but I don't think that is the chainsaw's fault 
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