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Old 08-29-2004, 11:42 AM
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I am selling $10 designer like sunglasses on the Internet. I have spent countless hours developing my site: www.glamourshades.com

I should have done more research before I got into the sunglass business. It seems to be filled with SEO pros.

I think I have the SEO basics covered. I would appreciate some feedback on the site. I would be glad to send anyone who helps me a free sunglasses. What else do I need to do to make it show up? What SEO tools or books do I need?

I am spending bucks on google and overture ads. Here are my keywords. Which ones should I focus on?

My Keywords Demand Supply KEI
sun glasses hut 58,599 22,500 152615.235
sun glasses 218,126 937,000 50777.963
oakely sun glasses 2,394 265 21627.305
oakely sun glasses 2,394 265 21627.305
oakely sun glasses 2,394 265 21627.305
oakely sun glasses 2,394 265 21627.305
oakely sun glasses 2,394 265 21627.305
chanel sun glasses 21,333 24,100 18883.688
ray ban sun glasses 21,965 26,000 18556.200
wholesale sun glasses 26,923 65,200 11117.299
spy sun glasses 19,198 43,100 8551.350
gucci sun glasses 17,577 81,300 3800.134
replica sun glasses 9,698 34,100 2758.099
serengetti sun glasses 1,017 488 2119.444
polarized sun glasses 9,831 47,900 2017.715
aviator sun glasses 5,272 15,000 1852.932
sun glasses online 27,614 416,000 1833.012
maui jim sun glasses 10,859 67,400 1749.523
designer sun glasses 15,493 174,000 1379.500
prada sun glasses 4,635 19,700 1090.519
serengeti sun glasses 5,220 43,300 629.293
wholesale replica sun glasses 2,935 18,000 478.568
replica chanel sun glasses 1,432 5,640 363.585
discount sun glasses 8,983 260,000 310.362
dior sun glasses 4,605 73,800 287.344
d g sun glasses 989 4,180 234.000
brighton sun glasses 1,387 11,500 167.284
ralph lauren sun glasses 2,907 69,800 121.069
louis vuitton sun glasses 1,403 17,600 111.841
discount oakley sun glasses 1,444 18,800 110.911
womens sun glasses 2,100 59,000 74.745
armani sun glasses 1,896 68,500 52.479
cheap oakley sun glasses 962 19,200 48.200
giorgio armani sun glasses 1,499 59,100 38.020
designer replica sun glasses 939 24,200 36.434
cheap sun glasses 3,356 326,000 34.548
adidas sun glasses 1,850 104,000 32.908
killer loop sun glasses 1,220 47,100 31.600
fake sun glasses 1,141 44,200 29.454
golf sun glasses 1,879 169,000 20.891
wholesale designer sun glasses 851 36,000 20.116
man sun glasses 2,267 291,000 17.660
sun glasses case 1,642 220,000 12.255
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Old 08-29-2004, 01:03 PM
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Well, first of all get links, lots of links with your anchor text on. Work on it and, for Google, you will get nice results.

On your website you have two diferent site maps. IMO you should not use the 2nd sitemap because it has stuffed keywords on it. If, for any reason, I reached your website thru that page I would run away.

If I went to the first site map I would instatly try to click on your logo (but it doesn't have a link) or on the Home link and I would fell tempted to buy something from your.

By the way, your website looks nice, the kind-of-orange color you have is nice to make people buy stuff. Also the template like design is nice and very user friendly.

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Old 08-29-2004, 01:41 PM
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Hi glamourshades!
First of all welcome to the forums!

Well ... being Sunday here and considering I don't work in such a day, just reading the boards a little bit heavely than the other days of the week, I'll spend some time trying to help you a little.

I will start with the keywords research stuff.
First of all, I would recommend you reading seo guy's Seo Tutorial . Well, you should have better read it before starting your site but never is too late to get things done the right way.

Well ... since I'm not a native English speaker, I did a quick research on what's the correct speeling of the keywords you target. Well, probably the correct one is sunglasses since that's the version of the term with the higest competition and with the most searches performed according to WordTracker. You can use DigitalPoint's Keyword Suggestion Tool for a more detalied keyword research. Anyway, once you got in this biz and probably spent a few bucks you're not a skinflint to avoid spending around $7 to get full access to WordTracker features for one day.

Anyway, the keywords you target should be in correlation with your knowledge and abillity to get your site in the top of the SERPs. If this site would be my full time job I would aim for the most competitive ones ... like sunglasses.
Mostly, after your on-page optimization rocks you will have to focuse all your efforts on a well thinked, strong and long term link building campaign.
Start by submitting your site to Dmoz , if you're lucky you may get it quickly. Also, search over the boards and the web for established directories and submit your site. Also, start emailing other webmasters in your field and ask for link exchanges.

Now, let's strictly reffer to your home page.

Title: too long. You should know that a well optimized title should not be longer than 55 characters. Yours is probably double. Also, some SEOs tend to believe that having your main keyword being the first keyword of the title helps a little ( I tend to believe this too ) but I don't have any real evidences of this fact.
If you decide to target the most competitive keyword in your industry ( sunglasess ) I would suggest focusing only on that one on your home page. Trying to optimize that page for more keywords you'll be diluting your efforts.
Also, putting your site name in the title of every page sounds like you want to brand it. Don't know if this is quite necessary at this moment.

Let me give you just my absolute personal behaviour if I would be the one managing that site. My title would look something like:
Sunglasses - Cheap discount sunglasses
This way I have singlasses the first keyword in my title and I would target another 2 smaller keywords like discount sunglasses and cheap sunglasses, which by fair would bring you enought traffic in the next few months and probably would return some bucks in your wallet while you're in a big progress to your final target: sunglasses.
Also, regarding the title, you can achieve top rankings, but if your title looks spammy and surfers wont click it then it will be valueless.

Meta Tags: Yours seem to be optimized for the home page only. Still so, just as the title they look like they're working against you because repeating sunglasses to many times they look spammy. As well, you're diluting your efforts. Keep your Meta Description clickable from a surfer point of view and think like a SEO when writing it. Even if Google seems not to weight it when calculating rankings, Yahoo! and MSN seem to count it enought to make a difference.
Your internal pages Metas are totally un-optimized. Optimize them for the specific words they target and apply the above advice regarding the titles.

Clean up your source CODE and try to validate it using the www.w3.org HTML and CSS validators.
Also, regarding the CSS statements on your home page, cut them out of there and put them all into an external stylesheet. This way your clean up your code a lot. Also, do the same thing with heavy JS code if any on your pages.

Using Flash for a part of your navigation doesn't help alot. Well, in the past few months seems that Google is able to index and follow content inside .swf files but I wouldn't take the risk.

Try to move the content ( text ) that involve your targetted keywords upper in the source. You may be unlucky and spideres can leave your pages before they read the important parts of your site. Feed them!!!

Basic things: used your targetted keywords in bold and italicized text a few times on the page, just take care to avoid making them looking rude or spammy.

Also, your urls seem to use Sessions ... these things kill the crawlers, you should do or get someone done some mod_rewrite stuff for them.

Well ... seems that I wrote pretty much about on-page stuff. Probably most of the things are well known by you ... anyway ... they came to my mind and I wrote them here hoping to help you a little.

Now ... let's face the hardest part of the SEO stuff. The off-page part.
This means that 60%-70% ( +/- some % ) of your rankings nowadays will be based on links pointing to your site.

Well ... this thing isn't as easy as it looks at first. Some guys think that once they get bunches of unrelated links pointing to their sites they're done for the top SERPs. Its just not that simple.
Start by submitting your site to as many directories as you can find. Use variations of the keyword you're targetting ... this way you could avoid the sandboxing effect of the fast acquired links. Use text that exactly describe your site around the anchor text used for linking back to your site.
I just said the magic words: anchor text. This is probably the most important things involved in the off-page SEO stuff along with relevancy and probably PR.

Talking about PR ... your probably know what it is. You should try getting its value around 5, this way you make sure your site is frequently spidered and new changes to your site are quickly reflected in the SERPs.

There are a lot more things you should be aware of when thinking and managing the optimization of a website, especially when trying to achieve high rankings for a competitive keyword.
Probably, if I would try to write here lots of details about all this stuff I would take to much of seo guy's HDD Space

So, the key is reading, observing, trying, tweaking and so on.
Just keep up to date with new trends in the SEO world. Visit and post regulary on a few qualified SEO Forums like this one and step by step you'll learn a lot.

Ups ... almost forgot. Here are a few tools that can help you in your SEO adventure:
Of course, SEO Guy's site, which is an impressive resource of SEO infos, tools, articles and this nice forum. ( Thank God he's paying the bills for hosting etc. )

Keyword selection - This will give your an overview to your competitors backlinks. Don't base to much on its results since it queries Google for backlinks ... being known that latelly Google is not showing all backlinks. Just thos almost insignifiant, but it stil can help.

Digital Point's SEO Tools - nice collection of seo tools ... I like a lot the Keyword Tracker ( tracking your URLs positions in SERPs for specified Keywords ) and the Keyword suggestion tool I mentioned upper in this post.

Also, visit Seo Chat - The place where I firstly read about SEO. Great forum community, lots of Pros out there, forums, blog, great tools, great articles.

This is all for now ... lol ... just figured this is the longest post ever written by me on a forum. Anyway, hope this will help you a little. If you already know some things I've been talking in this post, please be aware that I don't consider you a noob or a newbie, so I'm not offending you at all

Something else ... my english sucks many times ... if it happened again during this post ... please don't swear me

Huh ... I'm tired of so much writting. Best wishes and good luck man. SEO
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Old 08-29-2004, 03:42 PM
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I hate to say it but you really dont have much competition at all!

In fact the first 3 websites dont even use the kw in their pages title, they are just there from backlinks spend 2 months on here, and build a HELL of a lot of relevant backlinks and you could easily be on the first page
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Old 08-29-2004, 03:43 PM
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I mean look at this http://66.102.7.104/search?q=cache:...unglasses&hl=en top 20 for sunglasses, doesnt even appear on the site anywhere
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Old 08-29-2004, 03:52 PM
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You're right seo guy. But to me some of those sites over there look like having lots of backlinks. Thats the only explanation I have for those sites showing up there even without the keyword in title.
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Hmm ... regarding costadelmar.com ... the only place where they have sunglasses is their metas. Even if Google is not showing any of those metas contents in the description used in that SERP ... it may count them + backlinks = the rank they got.
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they are rakning well based on their backlink strength and thats really it. Thats why I say our young friend can compete, he just has to out backlink them
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Yes ... he can do it ... he just needs a few little adjustments on his site and good backlinks. Start your job today glamourshades
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Old 08-30-2004, 04:50 AM
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Cool Free Sunglasses All Around

Guys... First of all I want to say thanks for your willingness to help. Let me send you a free pair of my awesome sunglasses. Just let me know which pair you want and where to send them.

Second...

Backlink strength seems to be what I need to work on. EXACTLY how do I do that? Do I need any tools? I will start by adding SEO Guy's link to my site.

Third...

What else do I need to do? seo_sensey I have taken your recommendations. eduardomaio I made yours too. SEO Guy why I'm I not showing up anywhere under sunglasses on google?

Thanks Again
GlamourShades
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