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Old 10-07-2004, 02:25 PM
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IN-house SEO peeps

Hey, if you do in-house SEO for a company, and you live in the USA, let me ask you a few questions. I have been doing SEO since mid-June, and I fell that I am not being compensated for what I am truley worth. Let's face it, without SEO, you have no traffic. No traffic = no sales. So SEO is important to any internet company, and the people doing the SEO deserved to be compensated accordingly.

***Are you peeps on salary, or an hourly wage?

***Give me a rough idea of what it is you are being paid? I understand that is a bit personal, so I would rather you didn't post anything as opposed to making something up, pls. If you would rather PM me that info, that's cool - and I will not tell anyone, except my boss.

***If you are in a part of the US where costs of living are higher/lower than the norm (ie you live in southern Cali or the middle of nowhere, Iowa) pls let me know so that can be noted.

I just know I am worth way more than I am getting. But I have no idea what to ask for, ya know? Thanks for any info you care to share, appreciate it.
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Old 10-07-2004, 04:26 PM
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I'm not... I do the SEO for my own company. I run the operations, SEO and some other stuff. I have a couple of people that work the phones and do shipping for me.

I have a few comments:

How good are you?

How much $$ does your company bring in from the WWW? How much have effected the $$ through SEO since mid June?

This would all play a big part on how much you should get paid. IMO
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Old 10-07-2004, 05:21 PM
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Interesting sig, but what makes Site-Sift any better than something like dmoz.org? Site-Sift appears to be a pay-only site submission site. In fact, the whole site appears to be actually using the same code as dmoz.org, but their entire collection is empty. Even busy categories (Business->Computers->Networking) are completely empty.

I don't see anything written up on the site, or any compelling reasons that would encourage someone like myself, to submit my sites, or sites from my clients, to Site-Sift.com.

What is the joke? I must be missing it.
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Old 10-07-2004, 05:42 PM
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Interesting sig, but what makes Site-Sift any better than something like dmoz.org? Site-Sift appears to be a pay-only site submission site. In fact, the whole site appears to be actually using the same code as dmoz.org, but their entire collection is empty. Even busy categories (Business->Computers->Networking) are completely empty.

I don't see anything written up on the site, or any compelling reasons that would encourage someone like myself, to submit my sites, or sites from my clients, to Site-Sift.com.

What is the joke? I must be missing it.

It's early yet, I'd give it an update or two. I'm guessing he's betting on getting some PR to the category pages. If that's the coarse... and it's your game... then sometimes it's better to get on early (if results are displayed by date and not alpha).
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Old 10-07-2004, 06:13 PM
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I'm not... I do the SEO for my own company. I run the operations, SEO and some other stuff. I have a couple of people that work the phones and do shipping for me.

I have a few comments:

How good are you?

How much $$ does your company bring in from the WWW? How much have effected the $$ through SEO since mid June?

This would all play a big part on how much you should get paid. IMO


How good am I? Well, I dunno. Am I better than some of the big names? Oh hell no. But if the site had zero traffic to begin with, and in four short months they are seeing 400 unique visitors, well...it's something, right?

How much money does the company bring in? I kinda disagree with the question. Teach me if I am wrong, but it isn't my job to convert sales, is it? I mean, it's not the web-designer's job to do SEO. If the product they sell is as good as they think, then it should sell itself. But - our site relies strickly on traffic to sell advertising.

Maybe I should pose the question a different way...what do some of you charge your clients on a per hour basis - say on consultations. Say a small business that doesnt have $50k to throw into a website - say they would like to talk to you for 5 hours a week and get good SEO information. What would you do there?

I dunno, I am just looking for something different than the current postition I am in. I like SEO, and was thinking about getting into it on a local basis.
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Old 10-07-2004, 06:14 PM
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Interesting sig, but what makes Site-Sift any better than something like dmoz.org? Site-Sift appears to be a pay-only site submission site. In fact, the whole site appears to be actually using the same code as dmoz.org, but their entire collection is empty. Even busy categories (Business->Computers->Networking) are completely empty.

I don't see anything written up on the site, or any compelling reasons that would encourage someone like myself, to submit my sites, or sites from my clients, to Site-Sift.com.

What is the joke? I must be missing it.


WOW, first off you are off topic. This thread is about in house SEO's.

If you would like to know a little information about it here you go.

The site is only three weeks old, if you don't believe me check out whois. Of course it is empty today is the first time I've put it out there. I waited a few to ensure that it had some PR prior to letting people know about it.

I sorry you feel that way about the directory, but for the price where else can you get a directory that gives one way links? I know the PR is not high yet but I assure you we have PR8's PR7's PR6's PR5's links pointing to it, just needs a little time.

We never claim to be better than DMOZ, oh accept the fact you will be listed in 48 hours Vs six months or never, and the fact we do not penalize companies for not having a keyword name. We allow KW as long as you stay within the guidelines.

If you have any other question please feel free to let me know.

Thank you,

Stuart
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Old 10-07-2004, 06:16 PM
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It's early yet, I'd give it an update or two. I'm guessing he's betting on getting some PR to the category pages. If that's the coarse... and it's your game... then sometimes it's better to get on early (if results are displayed by date and not alpha).



Yes, by date submitted
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Old 10-07-2004, 06:20 PM
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How good am I? Well, I dunno. Am I better than some of the big names? Oh hell no. But if the site had zero traffic to begin with, and in four short months they are seeing 400 unique visitors, well...it's something, right?

How much money does the company bring in? I kinda disagree with the question. Teach me if I am wrong, but it isn't my job to convert sales, is it? I mean, it's not the web-designer's job to do SEO. If the product they sell is as good as they think, then it should sell itself. But - our site relies strickly on traffic to sell advertising.

Maybe I should pose the question a different way...what do some of you charge your clients on a per hour basis - say on consultations. Say a small business that doesnt have $50k to throw into a website - say they would like to talk to you for 5 hours a week and get good SEO information. What would you do there?

I dunno, I am just looking for something different than the current postition I am in. I like SEO, and was thinking about getting into it on a local basis.


It sounds like good traffic.

The only reason I ask about the $$ the company makes is that I think if they make a bit more you can charge a bit more. You can't get $50,000 out of a company that only makes $50,000 on the WWW, its not good business.

A large retail company I used to work for spent six fiqures plus on SEO and web design cost but they made $10,000,000+ from online alone.
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Maybe I should pose the question a different way...what do some of you charge your clients on a per hour basis - say on consultations. Say a small business that doesnt have $50k to throw into a website - say they would like to talk to you for 5 hours a week and get good SEO information. What would you do there?

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Sorry, here is an good example. I have a friend that is a well know photographer in So CAL and his WEB/SEO person charges $60.00 an hour.

Hope that helps you.
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Old 10-07-2004, 07:11 PM
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The only reason I ask about the $$ the company makes is that I think if they make a bit more you can charge a bit more. You can't get $50,000 out of a company that only makes $50,000 on the WWW, its not good business.


Yea - that's fair. Well, they aren't exactly rolling in it. They will be someday, I do believe. But just not yet. Early business needs all the liquid assests they can keep thier hands on, ya know? I believe that is why I have not recieved decent compensation as of yet.

Thanks for the help, you are giving me things to think about.
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