Just chatting with my bro Digitalpoint and he is rocking the house for the keyword Ebay (Currently top 10 for ebay in google US) and we were discussing how hard the top 5 is going to be and it it would be possible to beat ebay.com for the keyword ebay.

this isnt some word that has just a few searches or isnt competitive we are talking 141,000,000 results and competing with all the global ebay.whatever sites but seriously is this like trying to outrank Google for Google on Google? Thoughts?

If you want to help our good brother Shawn out in gratitude for all his wicked ass tools feel free to link to his page http://www.digitalpoint.com/~shawn/...gistration.html with the keyword ebay

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The KW "google" actually has less comp than ebay - 119,000,000 but I think either can be done. What do your think about throwing up a page on your site and we get eceryone to throw up some links to it What the hell would that say if we could make the page outrank Google for "google"? (I wouldn't be suprised if there was something in the algo to stop that though) I've got a few sites that I can put up sitewides and even a page per site for some serious links

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I think outranking Google would be more difficult than ebay. The people linking to eBay are less "valuable" links than people linking to Google. It's Universities and big business linking to Google. eBay generally gets links from individuals selling stuff.

Which is why Google is PR10 and eBay is PR8.

That being said, my eBay page has been bouncing between #7 and #9 lately...

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eBay gets more unique visitors on a month to month basis than even Google does. it would be stupid hard to beat them. if you did there would be a hand edit of the search results.

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Wow, looking at that kind of search volume puts my modest ventures to shame. Why stop at ranking for Google and eBay? Go for Amazon, Froogle, and Dealtime.

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I wouldn't waste my time trying to rank above them. The time I would put into it would be better used on something I had a shot in hell of achieving.

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In case you were interested, you can see the definition of v7ndotcom elursrebmem here.

Maybe as an affiliate...

Interesting to figure out what's the cut for major players who aggregate traffic to the big shots.

Lately I saw that superpages.com added both eBay and Dealtime (Shopping.com) feeds/interface to their results pages:

http://www.yellowpagesima.org/pdf/n...agesRelease.pdf

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Still moving up though... #6 and #7 now across all data centers. Outranking ebay.ca and ebay.com.au now.

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Results 1 - 10 of about 170,000,000

And only a PR5!

I think Shawn could take out ebay, I would bet on it in Vegas.

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Go on Shawn! I hope you guys are all putting Links on his site;-) I will spread to word on my little seo board ;-)

Concerning Google, you could try:
http://suchmaschinen-web.de/index.php/Google but I think you SEO Guys would do much better;-)
Greetings
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