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10-16-2005, 12:40 AM
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Tables instead of <h1> tags hurt SEO?
I've read a lot that it is important to have a good construction in coding, like major keywords in <h1> tags with <h2> and <h3> subtags that also have keywors.
Does it hurt my SEO If I dont use any <h1> tags because I code with tables, you can see what I mean with the site i'm working on <snip>
Last edited by jlknauff : 10-16-2005 at 03:56 PM.
Reason: gambling related link
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10-16-2005, 01:11 AM
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Why not change the headers (inside the table cells) to <H2> and <H3> instead of <B>. You can always use a <STYLE> element or a STYLE="..." attribute to make them look the same as the rest of your text.
You should do that with your current H1 anyway, since it sticks out a bit, don't you think?
Put something like this in your <head> section for starters:
<style>
h1 { font-family:helvetica; font-size:1.5em;}
h2,h3 { font-family:helvetica; font-size:1.1em;}
</style>
 I won't even start about the benefits of ditching tables altogether and moving to css-formatting completely, but that would really the next step... |
10-16-2005, 02:22 AM
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I'm quite new when it comes to coding, well not new I just never got serious into websites so i've just used the basics i learned in a 9th grade class. I think i'm going to take that next step before i put too much time in tables, what would you recomend for learning css? would you recommend learning css over dreamweaver/frontpage?
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10-16-2005, 09:55 AM
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From a SEO point of view: yes.
Using your own "template" and css you can - after a while - update your sites much more efficiently.
And you can freely choose the order of your blocks of content on the pages. For example: you can have a navigation bar at the top of the page, but have the html CODE for that nav bar near the bottom of the html file. That way you can play with the SEO metric called "prominence".
Etc
I recommend http://www.w3schools.com/css/default.asp for learning css. If Mano70 chimes in, he may have something even better (but I dunno)
PS: you can witness the power and flexibility of css on sites like http://www.csszengarden.com/
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10-16-2005, 07:47 PM
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So i've done some research on css, it seems like I would be keeping my format of tables, css will just help me make the page easier to edit, is this correct?
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10-17-2005, 03:22 AM
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Originally Posted by banaax
So i've done some research on css, it seems like I would be keeping my format of tables, css will just help me make the page easier to edit, is this correct?
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Not easier in my opinion, though CSS experts would probably disagree, but much more powerful. CSS can really decrease your code length and speed up download times, and best of all gives you pixel by pixel control over the design of your web-pages.
I'm really happy I learnt CSS though, but it's a long road because each layout problem is new and needs researching, which takes time. Now I use about 80% of the potential of CSS, but that's enough for me.
By all means start by keeping your old table layout, if you like, but to get the full benefits you should eventually migrate to a "table-less" layout.
Cheers,
Paz.
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10-17-2005, 10:42 AM
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I agree. Valid point.
PS: two more posts - Paz - and your post count spells "LEET". Cool!
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10-17-2005, 10:44 PM
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Originally Posted by Wit
PS: two more posts - Paz - and your post count spells "LEET". Cool!
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haha missed it... I know "leet" is short for "elite", but does it mean something else in dutch?
Cheers,
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10-18-2005, 01:40 PM
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I really apprechiate all the advise, so in the last few days I've learned some css and tableless coding. I just have a small problem, check out the layout i'm working on at www.caniwin.com/onlinebj/index.php (I know i know another worthless gambling portal), If you try to navagate through the links on the left, you need to put the whole "hand" (mouse pointer) over the link, if you just point the finger at the link it takes you to the link below, you will see what i mean if you try it, anyone know how to fix this?
btw I realize I still need a lot of work on the site with headers, font, banner, layout but I know how to change that stuff now, just can't see why the links are acting so weird, thanks again |
10-18-2005, 08:19 PM
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never mind fixed the problem, I had vertical padding for my links
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